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#778237 08/18/12 01:42 AM
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A high unemployment rate can have undesirable results on an area - the crime rate increases.

Do you agree?

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I've put 'no'. Mind you you will have to define crime as it's a big subject theft? mugging? fraud? scams? If most people weren't law abiding society just wouldn't work.

Mind you having said that on some of my visits to the US I have had people try the old "$20 for petrol" con- possibly trying to set me up for a mugging too. Also have had to gently warn off sharp-eyed predators 'hanging about' possibly with an eye to bag or chain snatching from my less aware family members.

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To some extent crime has actually dropped! Possibly due to lower lead in the atmosphere, better security systems, or even people just being more aware.

Equally it could be due to incarceration becoming a business in it's own right.


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Well, well - look who decided to visit!!!!

Thank you Ian for your awesome comment. I am going to experiment with replying within your quote as I do tend to forget what I want to say - yep, those senior moments/lol.

I hope I don't confuse everyone too much - okay here goes - see below wink

Originally Posted By: Ninjahedgewych
I've put 'no'. Mind you you will have to define crime as it's a big subject theft? mugging? fraud? scams? If most people weren't law abiding society just wouldn't work.


You are so right - crime does involve a lot of things. Hmmm, never thought of that. If anyone wants my "two cents" worth - I think the scams have increased and the sad part is that they are focused on the desperate job hunters. LOL, I no longer deal with the online job sites as I finally figured out that they post job ads and do not care if the job really exists. For example, a lot of "id" thefts are happening from information taken from "online" resumes. I caution folks on my "How To Survive Unemployment" site to not provide personal information like phone numbers and addresses until they are sure the job posting is valid. I had challenged CareerBuilder about a year ago about one of their ads just to see if they care. Yes, they took down the ads for a while (one of their largest clients) but put it back up claiming they had investigated. Yikes - that is when the "light bulb" went on in my head - these jokers will post an ad for anyone that pays them. I am hoping more people will challenge these "bogus" ads and maybe boycott certain sites to make a point. Until such time I now find my own job openings the old fashioned way - networking and using my feet and hands to knock on someone's door. Yes, the online routine is ever so convenient but I am in my 50's and see too much heartache every day from folks that got their identity stolen through their resumes. In ending, I marvel at the boldness of some "bogus" sites asking for your social security number. Oh no! They will get that when I am in their chair filling out paperwork. And even then I am leery.

Originally Posted By: Ninjahedgewych
Mind you having said that on some of my visits to the US I have had people try the old "$20 for petrol" con- possibly trying to set me up for a mugging too. Also have had to gently warn off sharp-eyed predators 'hanging about' possibly with an eye to bag or chain snatching from my less aware family members.


LOL, crime is worldwide and I tell people visiting my island (Jamaica, West Indies) to try to go with a group. Why? Hopefully the tour guide will know the areas to stay out of. I as a local will not visit some areas - hey, love my life and want to be around to see my future grandkids. Bottom line, even when the economy is great - you have to use commonsense when you are out and about. My 25 year old daughter (only child) thinks I am crazy, and I have had to back up and not worry as much - but she takes some serious chances with her safety. Bottom line, if something happens to her - I will know in my heart I did try to teach her to be careful. I have never been mugged, raped, robbed or had my place broken into. I love my life, but use caution with my surroundings.

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Hi Ian:

Thanks for sharing this link with us and I stopped by to glance at the article.

Yes, the jail/prison has become a total joke. I no longer look to the system as so many victims do get their time in court only to end up with zero.

My take on all this - take steps to PROTECT yourself so that you hopefully do not become a "victim"...

It is like the "victims" have no right. Example - if you shoot someone that is breaking into your home, you may be the one that goes to jail. Yikes!!!! frown

Never been to jail and have no interest in going.

Originally Posted By: Ninjahedgewych
To some extent crime has actually dropped! Possibly due to lower lead in the atmosphere, better security systems, or even people just being more aware.

Equally it could be due to incarceration becoming a business in it's own right.

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Sadly you are right about the scams being practiced on the unemployed. I get the 'Scambusters' newsletter - or used to until we started getting computer hardwear problems- which details a lot of these types of subterfuge. I haven't had the chance to visit Jamaica yet, but one of my friends at work got married out there, and I have read Robert Barrett's And De Fun Don't Done both sources concur on the level, and type of crime on the island frown

In the UK things seem a lot quieter than most of the rest of the world. The gun control thing means that most amateur 'crims' firearms are replicas, and someone even being threatened with a knife makes the local newspaper. Most of the violence is drink/drug related and seems to be confined to the inner cities, or remote villages.

My council job, fitting safety equipment for the under fives' over sixties, and installing devices to help the sensory impaired takes me into a few of the 'rougher' areas of Portsmouth. Still very sedate compared with London. Although the Bellaonline Gathering took place in London at the same time as last years riots and I don't think any of the editors saw or heard anything about them at the time!


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Hi Ian:

Thanks SO MUCH for sharing with us about your side of the country. I always ENJOY hearing about what is going on worldwide.


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A pleasure Angela. Crime differs from country to country and region to region within the country. Having lived in Iraq, Mexico, China, Japan, and Hungary at various times it's interesting to see what's 'normal' for them and the precautions people take.

On my visits to the US all the houses do seem very vulnerable with poor outside lighting and limited lines of sight from the front door. The doors and walls don't feel that strong either. I will have to write an article on home protection from both the magickal and earth plane perspectives. smile


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Ran into a problem early on - we have to "define crime" as "it's a big subject".

Hmmm... someone asks if it is or includes "theft? mugging? fraud? scams?" Gosh, tough question. Let's see, Is theft a crime? Yes, so that's included. How about mugging, could that be a crime? Sure, it probably includes an assault, a battery, and a theft, actually a robbery, so yes, mugging is a crime, so indeed mugging is included. How about fraud? Certainly there's such a thing as criminal fraud, so we can include that too. Scams are usually defined as frauds, so we can include them too. How about that! Every thing suggested is a crime, so they can all be included when we say crime.

Here's an idea- how about we define crime as criminal activity? That's not too much of a stretch is it?

Now that we have a proposed acceptable definition of crime as criminal activity, hope this helps the discussion can move forward.

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Quote:
For example, a lot of "id" thefts are happening from information taken from "online" resumes


In addtion to the 'Scambusters' site, this one from "Scamwarners" seems to be carrying the best and most up to date information on employment and other scams.

Hope it helps! smile


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