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I stand by my statement of Comrad Obama. With everything in my heart and my soul. I just watched my country, that I love more than you would believe, be delivered into the hands of a man who has blatenly lied on an almost daily basis. Who has directly said that he WILL form a system of redistribution of the wealth. Who is directly tied with rigging our electoral process in the form of giving ACORN 3/4 of a million dollars. Who is directly tied to an unrepentent terrorist. Who was mentored for twenty years by a black supremeist.

I come to this forum to know that I am not crazy. I come here because on the road, I see Obama after Obama after Obama bumper stickers and only the ocassional of any other party. When I would stop for breaks and eat at truck stops, I can't help but feel frustrated hearing other people talk about how great Obama is and then not be able to tell me why. Just, "He's going to bring change."

It's like I'm living in a twilight zone. I have to watch everything that is great about my country be destroyed because we just elected someone whome the DICTATORS and TERRORISTS around the world endorse.

As far as stick to the facts, Michelle, I am suprised to see that one. I have put more facts on this forum building a case against Lord Barack that there is no way anyone (in their right mind) could possibly vote for him.

Not to mention, the McCain camp stuck to the facts the entire electoral process and was branded as racists every time they did.

WELCOME TO RUSSIA

-whoisjohngalt

I have not accused you of not sticking to the facts. My point is your facts get lost in all the sarcasm and hate speech. If you have paid attention to my posts - I agree with you!!!

However,as a moderator of these forums, I cannot aloow hate speech to go on in these threads. I am giving you the opportunity to remove the offensive words.

If you feel you cannot make your arguments without being hateful, then I will just delete the entire thread.

My apologies, I thought you had said that I should stick to the facts. I may have misread your post.

-whoisjohngalt

Perhaps I should have said stick to facts only.

My point was that the facts you were trying to present are often getting lost in the tone of bitterness and sarcasm. You do make some excellent and very intelligent points in every post. But sometimes they get overlooked because you come off as being almost "rabid" in your opinions. If this were a religious debate you would be labled a "fundie" (something I've been accused of myself).

Politics & Religion, there are very few subjects that bring on so much passion and heat (good and bad) as these two topics.

It is very hard to put aside personal feelings and argue from "just the facts, ma'am". But in politics it is imperitive we do so.

Personally I don't want the leader of my country chosen by a bunch of people on a hate binge. Of course, now it is too late to determine how anyone voted. We have who we have.

Hi John,

It's kind of nice to meet here on a regular basis and it is a place where you can or should be, anyway, able to vent. There is a lot of sensitivity about race these days, in my opinion - too much emphasis is placed on it, while broader issues are left on the way-side. It's skin color, that's it. I have to admit, you can take this how you need to, but your posts do sound sarcastic, BUT the impression I'm feeling is that it has more to do with frustration about where this country is headed and not that you have hate towards a black man. Again, that's my opinion, again, groups of people still feel the need to walk on eggshells, hang in there these days WILL pass. Eventually people will see for themselves other races will be featured as making progress. They make this progress becasue they don't get caught up in complaining how they use to be treated and what happened. I personally have a horrible line of holocaustic history in my family. We don't sit around in our spare time and re-hash it. It was horrible, we give blessings and acknowledge to the souls that endured pain and suffering, they are in our daily thoughts and we put sweat and sacrifice into making our mark here and now - not gripes.

To your original point as to why you are seeing or say Obama stickers over and over agian, there are so many factors and if you've been "out there" you can see how the state of our country has been spiraling downward for some time now. People, and rightfully so, are absolutelly sick to death of it. You won't probably want to hear this either, but it is a direct result of greed. You'll never take someone who can get their way, take a lifestyle where they're in control, financially, socially what have you and they just wake up fresh out of bed, stretch and go, "whew, glad I got that out of my system...let's do this the more difficult way."

I know this isn't a popular view, but I enjoy a great deal of the immagrants I meet. They have a go-to attitude. They are genuinely happy to be here, make a life for themselves and their family, starting a business and making a dream out of their own two hands. They aren't going to be able to comprehend being placated to for the votes. Would you? I would be so busy taking every day into account, learning my way around a different country, the concept wouldn't even graze me.

As far as terrorists go, have you ever had a situation where your life is just falling apart, one step after another? To you, you're just focusing on how to make it better or are so emotionally charged with a situation you may not notice until someone points it out that watching you is painful - maybe it's an illness or what not. The point is, it's not as bad going through it as it is someone watching. Terrorists work the same way. What they're going through makes sense to them and the people really close to them. To the outside world, it's painfully obvious that it is a negative way to promote change.

There are a lot of things we don't have control over. I do encourage you to vent. I'd rather you did it here or some other forum than take it out on the road or inadvertantly someone else that doesn't know what your feeling. This is a supportive atmosphere but it is also conversational. If you want to put something down on words, pretend you are actually talking to a room of people and see if the point would go over as best it could under adversity. We can't make each post a perfect one and you don't have to leave out facts just because it might offend someone, but just maybe they could be presented in a different manner.

Someone wrote to me in an email that so often emails and posts do get taken out of context. so much is left out that the person reading it has to interpret for themselves. Sometimes you just have to take into consideration that people, if they are defensive or insecure will take it as negatively as possible even if that's not the way you intend it.

Outside of this post, a lot of times I will leave the computer and go back and read my post with a clear mind and judge my own wording. Not every time and I won't leave out how I truly feel, but like I said, sometimes it can be worded better.

I do enjoy your posts btw.

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Elleise
Clairvoyance Editor

Making fun of Obama and actually the Lord Jesus Christ is not sticking to the facts. Sarah Palin may have been investigated when the VP candidacy was announced, but then everyone is investigated when they are nominated to public office like that.

Obama didn't lie about things like his tax plan to ease taxes for the middle and lower taxes, in fact everyone who makes less than 250,000 a year will receive tax breaks according to his plan. That has been proven to be true.

If he introduces Socialized medicine would that be a bad thing? Canada has Socialized medicine and they are a thriving country still.

Also, I dont know how you can compare Obama to Hitler, that is just assinine especially when you say that the people of Germany could have prevented Hitler from taking power or how they could allow him to rule the country. It wasn't as if they had a choice in the matter.

Maybe Obama will be a great president or maybe he will do a [censored] job we wont know until he takes office. He cant be any worse than his predecessor or any of the other presidents that have done not such a good job.

Oh, and dont think for a minute that Big Brother isn't already watching us and the American people have no say in that either. Plus Michelle wasnt saying you were sticking to the facts, she was commenting on your "Lord Obama" and the "Comrade Obama" comments.

whoisjohngalt,

Thanks for writing this post. I, too, needed to see a like-minded person and know that I am not crazy. Fortunately, I live in a red state and McCain/Palin signs are not uncommon. I am deeply saddened for our country and the direction we are now headed. I am also deeply saddened for the people that have put their trust in a man who will eventually fail them. The fall will be hard.

I for one will defend anyone's right to an opinion. I may be a Democrat, but as this country was founded on tolerance, I support people's right to disagree. This is what makes us strong!

But I am firmly with Michelle on the hate talk. We can't have posts that are inflammatory, disrespectful and mean-spirited on any BellaOnline forum. It's not why the forums were created and hate-talk is strictly against our signed membership terms.

We see this in not just the political topics, but also in the family topics, the pet topics, the religious topics and even the crafting topics sometimes! We, as mods, have to put a stop to it in all cases, so don't feel singled out.

Trolls, I've noticed.

Hate talk, not so much.

Right, Troll-talk.