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Freespirit:

Thanks for making me laugh!! Although, it is a serious subject - but I do have to laugh due to the truth in it, and that this truth is so hidden away.

I hope that girl gets to a safe home soon.

And freespirit, your reasons aren't far from the truth. Maybe they're not the primary reason why people have kids, but they're a convenient side effect.

Freespirit -- thank you for doing right by that little girl. Nothing makes me madder than people who hurt kids -- I hope that they lose custody, and that she falls into a soft nest.

FWIW, we never have had "all sorts of government $$" for having our son, and that includes when we had almost no income.

Poor, poor baby. On Easter to boot. And my niece spent her Easter surrounded by two sets of Aunts and Uncles, Grandma and Grandpa, her Mommy (Daddy had to work) & her two cousins, hunting for eggs and making leggo houses for her plastic animal set. That poor child should have been just as lucky as our sweet Elise. Bless her.

Why can't they make it a law that people who abuse children be steralized? Why should they have the "right" to have more children?

You know what I find ironic? That the vast majority of CF'ers are outraged by seeing a kid abused, yet so many parents accuse us of being cold or heartless for not wanting kids. Sure, lots of parents would also flip their lid at seeing a kid treated that way, but there's also quite a few parents out there who DO treat their kids badly. Yet if a parent sees one of those people just one the surface, they're met with more approval than someone who's CF, simply because they had kids. More digging needs to be done to say "ah yes it's good that person has kids!".

I have a friend that works that did some digging and they have placed the girl in a house about 100 miles from here they dont know who her parents are but they are not really looking for them either with the bursing on the girl if they report her missing they will charge them with abuse. the little girl was white and spoke english so the parents can use the excuse they dont want to be deported! so far no one has reported her missing. they are taking her to her new home today. there is no place her to send her so... and this way they won't accadently find her and try to take her back. my friend says this is a good place and that there is case workers and everything there and they will get her the help she needs and try to find out who she is right now they are just calling her Easter...probley because I called her Easter bunny because it made her laugh...

anyways.... I do get tired of hearing how cold and insensitive I am because I dont want to have kids but the truth of it is there are to many kids out there that seem to need me to help them and I dont think I would even notice these kids if I had my own.

My mom is mad because I got the cops involed she said we should have just let the girl wonder back to her house but.... I think that is her mother side coming out of her. she hates for me to get involved because there is always a chance that people will retaliate and hurt you for helping there kids. my mom doesnt want me to get hurt. on the other hand If she had not had me I think she would be the first one to help this child. She may not have done it the way I did but she would not have said just let her wonder back home some one else can find her and deal with it!

It is sad that these kids are abused and need someone to love and help them... to defend them but no one wants to get involved because of whatever reason.

Maybe they are smarter then me but this little girl will at lest have shelter and food and I hope they find out who she is and nul and void her parents rights to her or at lest throw them in prison!

I think they should be starilized all children taken away and no goverment help given to them ever again and then ban them like sex ofenders and never let them anywhere near kids ever again!

I hate to sound so negative too, but this is the way I feel too.

I got suckered into going to a work baby shower last night for two other co-workers and one was on her forth......OMG! How the hell are people going to be able to take care of four kids?? The sad thing....most of the families in my area have three or more kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jzel,
You dd the right thing. Don't listen to your mom. And 3 or 4 kids in this day and age is irresponsible, IMHO. I have quite a few friends and family members who have 3 or 4 (or more!) kids and I love them dearly, but I could never have that many kids without feeling I was doing something awful. I guess that's why we're CF. We think things through before we leap.

Thanks for the update on "Easter." I'm glad they placed her far away from where she was found. Her parents don't need to have contact with her ever again.

We have some family that have 8 kids on one income. HOW the hell, is all I can think.

Also, i wrote about them awhile back, but a family in my neighborhood with 4 kids had their house destroyed by a storm. Luckily they're all okay, but their house has to be completely rebuilt. They've been sending out letters pleaing for donations to help them get it finished. It sounds like the situation is very close to the breaking point. I can't imagine what that would be like to have 4 kids and dealing with that.

It's not that I don't empathize, or sympathize, because I absolutely do, but I do still wonder if people think about "what if's" before having 4 kids. If one thing goes wrong, do they have the back-up or cushion to survive? It's going to be really hard for a family like that to get back on their feet, when they're so spread out.

My DH is reading a book about Native Americans right now, and one thing it said is that it was taboo to have sex with a woman while she was pregnant AND lactating. The reason was, they were nomadic, and it would have been too hard for the mother to carry more than one baby at a time in her papoose while they traveled. Any more than that and her family would be a burden on the tribe. So, they really prevented a lot of problems for themselves by not taking on more than they could handle at one time. If only people did that these days, it might prevent some of society's problems.

I've read this too. That the Indians saw the white men and their large families and couldn't belive how irresponsible they were and wondered how the man was able to provide for all those children.