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#271653 09/26/06 10:01 PM
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Hi there,

I just wanted to share my story because when I was looking for information and I couldn't find any. When I was almost 13 weeks pregnant I found out by ultrasound that I was having a miscarriage called a blight ovum. My body was showing no signs of miscarriage (bleeding or cramping). At that point, once everything was confirmed and my hormone levels were dropping I was told I'd probably have to have something called a D&C in order to remove the contents of the uterus since my body didn't seem to be taking care of things naturally. They figured the fetus died at 9.5 weeks so it was surprising that nothing was happening yet. I'm into natural health so I was not excited about the D&C option so I put it off long enough so that I could try to help things along naturally and let my body take care of things when the time was right. But I wasn't willing to wait forever so I booked the D&C for 2 weeks later. In the mean time I seached the internet for what I could do and found information on herbs that help you expell the contents of the uterus. I had lots of hot baths in epsom salts and exercised a fair bit. I took some herbs for about 5 days and then decided that that felt like enough. I talked to my body and let it know that it was okay to release, I was ready to move on. Then the day before I was booked in for the D&C I started bleeding light at first and then boom, it came on really heavy. I went to the hospital because that was what I was told to do if I started bleeding that heavy. I was having crazy cramps for about an hour and then I passed something (you would know it when it happened) when I went to the bathroom. My cramping eased right off after that and the bleeding lightened up a lot (I maybe bled heavy for 2 hours). I had an ultrasound which showed that I had expelled everything! I was so relieved. So happy that I had given my body the chance to take care of everything on it's own and it pulled through! The women's body truly is amazing! If anyone has any questions or is going through the same thing I would be happy to share more.

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Jodie

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While a D & C is scary and an unhappy option--all that invasive [censored] in the middle of such a tumultuous, emotional time--sometimes it is the best way to make sure the uterus is in the shape it needs to be, especially if you're going to try to get pregnant again.

I had a miscarriage in Aug 2005. I was allowed to miscarry naturally and did not have a D&C.

I got pregnant again in April 2006, and miscarried in May. My new doctor wanted to perform a D&C because he was concerned that my uterus may have not fully expelled the lining or "products of conception" from my previous pregnancy, therefore making miscarriage much more likely.

My mother in law is an OB nurse and she was a) surprised the first doc didn't do a D&C and said she wouldn't have been surprised if that's what caused my second miscarriage, and b) that after the D&C, she would be willing to bet that I carried any new pregnancy to term.

Well, I'm pregnant now, 4 months after the last miscarriage/d&c...I've only just found out yesterday, so I don't know the specifics...but if I make it past my first trimester this time, I'm going to be thankful we agreed to the D&C.

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Thanks Jode for posting this. It also has been something I have been trying to find more info on.

2 weeks ago I went for my first check up since being pregnant (at 8.5 weeks). The doctor said she didn't see a heart beating so asked me to do 2 blood tests. One that day and one 48 hours later to see if my HCG levels had gone down (apparently if the pregnancy is developing normally, the HCG
levels should double every 48 hours). Well unfortunately the results showed they had gone down.

I haven't had any bleeding, it's been 15days. I went to see the doc again today, she booked me into do a D&C next Thursday. I told her I would prefer for the baby to pass naturally, but she said there is a risk if I wait even longer my womb could become infected, which could lead to further complications for a future pregnancy.

When she said I should go for an operation, I got so upset, I've never had an operation before, be it minor. It seems like such an invasive means to end this. I am hoping that I pass the remains naturally before next Thursday.

Does anyone know how long it is recommended to wait for the remains to pass?

What are the risks of not going for a D&C vs. natural means?

Any advice on some natural methods to maybe help pass the remains faster?

Thanks for posting this topic,
God bless
Thel

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Thel:
First of all...I am so sorry your pregnancy ended in miscarriage. I had a miscarriage of twins 2 weeks ago at 9 weeks pregnant and it was devastating for me and my husband. However, I do have some advise for you on the D&C vs the natural miscarriage.

I chose the D&C. It is actually quite safe and performed for many reasons other than miscarriage. I am so grateful I chose this as the whole miscarriage experience was made less traumatic. Once you know your baby(ies) are no longer alive, it becomes so grueling to walk around knowing they are still in there...it just prolongs a very traumatic experience. I understand some people like to let natural things happen naturally, but I didn't plan to have my babies without pain medicine or a cavity without novicaine...so I chose to be put under and get it over with so we could move on and heal. The discomfort was minimal and the bleeding afterward was next to nothing. I am so glad I went this route. Several of my girlfriends have had miscarriages and they would recommend the D&C over a natural miscarriage. Some natural m/c can be fast and not so painful but others are really awful and women often end up in the emergency room for a D&C anyway because the pain and bleeding are too much for them to handle.

My advice is to keep the event in a controlled environment to reduce the added trauma you may have to endure.

I was also told by my Dr. that if you want to try again, you usually get your period faster after a D&C vs a natural M/C because your hormones level out faster.

Hope it all goes well for you.

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Thanks Karaleen for you nice message,
I totally see your point about getting a D&C, it just caught me by surprise last Friday when my gyno booked me in for it. I suppose I wasn't ready, I just assumed my body would heal itself. Well after I posted this message, I went to another doctor and she prescribed me Cytotec, which she hoped would help induce it. I bled this weekend, quite heavily Saturday night, but then very lightly since. I just went for another ultrasound and the sac is still there. Its so hard to know what to do. Normally I am booked in for the D&C tommorrow, but I just can't make up my mind what to do. I feel so much pressure to make a decision fast.
Does anyone know if its dangerous waiting longer? I would be 11 weeks pregnant now.

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Oh Thel, my heart goes out to you. This is such a long process for you and I'm sure you just want to be able to move on and begin healing. Plus, you are probably feeling a bit trapped now that your body is so unpredictable. If you are like me, you don't want to experience this even in public and are now locked in your home. I can't stress enough to go get the D&C. You gave your body ample time to do this for you and now you run the risk of infection if you don't pass the sac soon. If you want to get pregnant again, you want to avoid infection as much as possible as it may creat scar tissue and lower your chances. Ask them to put you under (which they are usually very good about) and it will be less painful and less bleeding than what you have already experienced. It is quite a safe procedure.

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I would have been 11 weeks today...and our babies also died in the 8th week so you and I have a lot in common. Hang in there.

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Hi i'm 13 years old and i was 11 weeks pregnant and i found out by ultrasound that i had a miscarriage my i feel like it's my falt i was wondering if maybe u and i could talk and maybe the both of us would feel better


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Mary:

I'm so sorry you lost your baby. It is a very hard thing at any age. I am 39 (3 times older than you)...but as women...or emerging women...it is the same loss for all of us.
First of all...miscarriage is NEVER anyone's fault unless they set out to intentioally harm the pregnancy. I'm sure God had other plans for this little soul and there was nothing you could have done to save it.

You are quite young to be having babies though, so I suspect this pregnancy came as a suprise? It doesn't make you love the little bean any less...and once life is created..it is life and a part of us so we want to see it continued. Please know that you should not feel any responsibility for the miscarriage. If it was meant to be, it would have continued.

I wondered as well if there was anything that I did to cause the loss of my twins. We were in Hawaii the week they stopped growing. I wondered if flying was an issue or swimming in the ocean or being jarred around on a kayake trip could have contributed....but alas...those are silly thoughts. The female body is designed to do this....those little babies are soooo protected in the 1st 12 weeks...a little altitude and extra activity will have no bearing on the pregnancy. Women do drugs, drink, fall down stairs, get in car accidents and run marathons pregnant and go on to have healthy babies....Bottom line...God called your baby up early to fulfill bigger and better things.

Did your parents know about this? Your boyfriend? Or are you suffering alone? I can't imagine not having the support of all my family and friends...so if you are alone...I am here. Just drop me a note.

Take care.

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Karaleen, you are such a caring lovely women. Thanks so much for giving such support, especially when you are going through the same. I didn't realise our babies died around the same time and would've been the same age. Atleast they are all together being overwhelmed by Love from God...

Mary, am sorry also to hear about your miscarriage. I am twice your age at 27 and still we ask ourselves these questions. Karaleen is right though, some statistics say 1 in 5 pregnancies end in miscarriage. Mainly this is because the embryo was not developing as it should. The baby would probably not have been strong enough to live on it's own in this life. The human body is amazing the way it naturally knows this. You take care of yourself. Let yourself heal, and know that we support you.

Lots of prayers for you both,
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Thel
BTW, went for the D&C yesterday. Its true I do feel much better now. It's all over with. Today am in bed feeling abit run down but moving on. Thanks again for all your support! xx

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Thel:
I'm so glad to hear you are feeling better. I felt the exact same way once the D&C was done. Up until that point, we still hold some tiny thought that all may be okay because our own body is not responding to the medical information we have been given. I was still very sad about the loss, but after the D&C, I found it easier to look to the future and set new hopes and goals in place. It is so hard to move on while being held in one spot, waiting for an event that is sure to be unpleasant.

My husband was great throughout this whole ordeal. He was so excited about this pregnancy and especially twins. This is a 2nd marriage for us both and he and his x-wife tried to have children for years and it never worked. He thought it was all him...turns out it was not just him afterall. We did achieve our pregnancy through the help of an infertility specialist using IUI. So there was a lot of effort put forth here. But he was supportive and wonderful through it all, even though he was sad too. By the time we had the D&C....he was ready to get his "wife back" as he told me. Once I was feeling good again (it only took about 2 days after D&C)....I made a date for us where we both put on nice clothes, fancied up and went out to a nice dinner. I drank a glass of wine for the 1st time in 10 weeks and ate ceasar salad dressing without worrying about any raw egg ingredients. We had to find our silver linings somewhere....so we found them with each other. Afterall, that is where the magic began...right?

What I am trying to say is...don't be afraid to go on living. There are beautiful things ahead for you...including children. We talk about our little babies and we miss the magic they brought to a short period in our lives...but we talk just as much about our future babies and how that magic can repeat itself and bring better things. We are moving ahead with another round of fertility treatments once my body gets back on track. Now the hard part is being patient. I'm not so good at that.

Sending much love your way.

Karaleen.

Mary...hope you are doing well...haven't seen any new posts from you...my thoughts are with you.

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