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Alexandra #294013 02/21/07 11:32 AM
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Ideally of course it would be a celebration of life, but you can't pawn your joy off on someone else. You can't make a 16 year old want to have a child, the most you are capable of doing is making it impossible for her to recieve a safe abortion and forcing her onto the streets. Outlawing it does not make it go away, it just makes it more dangerous.


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Mindy - #294338 02/22/07 05:37 PM
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Outlawing it certainly reduces the frequency of it. Outlawing murder doesn't stop murder completely either but I bet there'd be a lot more of them if it were legal. And women who risk their health and lives seeking illegal abortions have no one to blame but themselves.

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The reality is you have no right to have a say about what goes on between my legs or in my womb, so keep your idea's out of my body.


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Mindy - #295120 02/26/07 03:44 PM
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Well said Mindy86. The point is, women should not be made to adhere to the personal beliefs of others in regard to when life begins, reproductive issues, or what we can do w/our own bodies (and no, we're not "temporary houses").

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I have every right to protect the lives of the innocent unborn. No woman has the right to kill her unborn child for the selfish and irresponsible reason of just not wanting to be pregnant. If you don't want to be forced to carry a pregnancy to term then practice abstinence or birth control. Don't get pregnant. But if you do get pregnant, don't make some innocent child pay the price of his/her life for your selfish desire to duck your responsibilities. Keep your ideas out of the life of your child. Pay for your own mistakes. Don't force a child, whose only crime was having a heartbeat, to pay the penalty.

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"unborn child" - TD, don't you understand that many don't consider an early pregnancy a child as you do? When many of us speak of abortion we are not speaking of children as you are. We are on different planets on this issue and the best you can do in this situation is not have an abortion yourself and raise your family with those beliefs.

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As I said, they are not dogs or cats, they are humans. Unborn children. If you disagree, you are wrong.

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I think the two thoughts are extreme. Abortion is used as a form of birthcontrol, is true and is wrong, and I would probably even say it is murder. Abortion within rape, incest, etc... should be permisable without question. Sounds like a double standard? Probably, but I have both thoughts.

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If abortion is murder ( and it is) is it justifiable to murder a child becaue its father did something wrong? No, it is not the child's crime. Why give the child the death penalty for the father's rape or incest? The only time abortion should be legal is when the mother's life is in jeapordy. Saving a life is always right.

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Originally Posted By: lovelove
The only time abortion should be legal is when the mother's life is in jeapordy. Saving a life is always right.


So you agree with conditional murder, then? Kill one to save the other...? What human has a right to decide that one shall live to save the other? So if you were pregnant, but Doctors told you that in order to live your baby would have to die, you'd accept that, would you...?

Nasty situation....

I'd review your ideology, otherwise you need to have a re-think on the whole question, Lovelove....

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