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I have had conversations with mature women, wherein I have asked when they had begun using cosmetics. They all answered that they had delved into the wonderful world of make-up in their early, or mid-teens. I then asked, why had they begun using make-up? They all had the same answer...to look more mature.

We all probably started experimenting with cosmetics in our teen years, but, hopefully, we aren't still purchasing the same bright, bold, hard, color shades we used back then! Mature women want to look anything but 'older'! And that goes for everything, in our cosmetic choices, from foundation shades and blushes, to eyeliner, and mascara! Believe me, only very young gals can sport those neon shades of blue, green, fuschia, etc. shades of eye shadows, or the metallic and frosted types, or the pinky-pink shades, or flat-red shades, of lipstick. At twenty we may have been able to apply deep shades of pink, or reddish blush, but now, well, we'd look more like Bozo the Clown, trying to carry them off!

The False-Face Look is Long Gone!

The old-fashioned practice of smearing foundation all over the face, covering it entirely, is no more. Today, it is best to apply foundation only where we require it, to even out our complexions. As well, most foundations today do not require a layer of face powder, to achieve a 'set', so to speak. Although we are still being told to powder, usually by spokespersons for cosmetic companies, in reality, this does nothing more than cause a dry, and unflattering look for mature women. Often, a woman may find the powder, even those highly refined, ultra-sheers, are clogging pores, and giving her face a 'caked' look.

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Hi Jeanine. What a great topic to discuss. I think I'll write an article on Makeup for Mature Women <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

While I do agree with you on some points (colour selection and looking younger instead of older), I have to disagree with you on your point of foundation and powder. Yes, foundation is a great product to use for concealing or evening out complexions but you still do need a powder to set everything. Without the powder, your makeup will completely slide right off.

What I like to do with my Older Girls is conceal where required and then very lightly dust their face with a silky powder. A powder that won't sit in the creases. Try it out, you'll love it!


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Forgot to add a great link to a fantastic line of makeup specifically for mature skin: www.laurenhutton.com


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Hello, CC. Nice to meet you. Oh, the old, 'to powder or not to powder' debate! When I hear from a mature woman that her foundation is sliding, and she needs to powder down her face, I always ask her about her facial moisturizer, then I ask if she's using a special foundation, say one for dry skin. Those greasy moisturizers, ones that sit on the surface of the skin, can be a woman's worst foundation-foe. If she then applies a foundation specially formulated for dry skin, one with extra moisturizing ingredients in its formulation, she may be compounding the problem. Resulting in the vexing 'foundation slide'.

The difference between youthful skin, and more mature skin, is that a young woman's skin is 'dewy', 'plumped', from within, with natural moisture. A mature woman's complexion tends to be drier. We produce less and less natural facial moisture, less natural oils, as we age. A mature woman may resort to using heavy moistuizers, many marketed expressly to the older woman. These may not be absorbed well, into the first layer of her facial skin, and will remain as a layer of slick, on her face.

I usually suggest that mature women look for moisturizers that once applied, are not visibly apparent, or, easily detected if she runs the tip of her finger over her skin. I point out that the tendency to over-apply a moisturizer, thinking more has to be better, should be avoided. I also suggest she try using a foundation for a normal complexion, instead of one for dry skin, thereby banishing the moisturizing extras. The skin can only absorb so much, the rest is left sitting on the face. Adding even an eensy-weensy dusting of dry powder, on top of a layer of grease, well, it is just not an attractive look.

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I don't know if you've ever actually practiced the art of makeup artistry but, in the off chance that you haven't or don't I'll let you in on a major industry secret: apply your moisturizer and wait 15 minutes before applying any cosmetics. This will ensure that all of the moisturizer has been absorbed by the skin and will in fact not mix at all with any cosmetics applied afterwards. Cosmetics applied immediately after the moisturizer goes on become aborbed by the skin. The makeup doesn't slide off, it mixes with the moisturizer.

I am fully aware of the differences in a woman's skin as she ages and to be quite honest with you, not all women experience dry skin. Just because we get older doesn't mean that we all fit into the same square. We should still have our skin assessed from time to time in order to determine what our skin type is if it has in fact changed. Once properly assessed, we can determine what formulation to purchase when it comes to our skin care routine and cosmetics.

I agree with you that heavy moisturizers should not be applied if one will be wearing makeup. Those are best left to the evening when we retire for the night. Our skin repairs itself as we sleep and so a heavy moisturizer (for those with dry skin, keep that in mind) is quite beneficial.

I would also suggest that we choose our moisturizers wisely. Something lighter for the spring and summer and something a little heavier (depending on how dry one's skin becomes) for the winter.

As for foundation, just as I said above, we need to purchase products that are formulated for our particular skin type. So if someone has oily skin, the foundation or duo powder should be formulated for oily skin. In other words, a foundation without oil ("oil-free") is ideal. But always, always, follow up with a very light dusting of powder or you'll foundation will eventually disappear into your skin.

Foundation and powder form a base for one to build on. It's like building a house, if you don't have the proper foundation, your house will collapse. So foundation alone and your makeup will collapse. There are a lot of powders out there that are formulated for mature skin or dry skin and those are the ones that would be best for mature, dry skin.


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CC, the face powder debate will rage on...I don't use it, and have no problem with foundation sliding, or disappearing. I have recommended not using face powder, or powder blushes, or powder eye shadows, to many mature women, who have reported to me they are pleased with the more natural look achieved, when they refrain from using these particular products. Sometimes, climbing out of the 'rut' of 'this is the standard way to do it', pays off. More and more today, even the so-called makeup artist experts are advising women to use face powder, 'only if absolutely necessary'. My youngest daughter, now thirty, has stopped the practice of using powder. Even though she was never one to over-do, she told me she just doesn't like the way even a small amount of powder ages her look.

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Oh well!


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Okay, looking at my posts, and seeing that this is my first post, makes it look like I don't hang out here. Quite untrue actually. I read a lot but don't write a lot, obviously. I do agree with CC on the powder issue, I'll be 40 next year and quite honestly the lighter based powders do wonders for my skin. They even out my complexion without hanging out in my wrinkles.

I agree with Jeannine too on the some of the colour issues.

But most importantly, Jeannine, I am a professional makeup artist and have worked on several feature films around the world. I am very up to date on literature and I would have to say that your last post, sounds terribly familiar. I'm sure that the original writers of the pieces would appreciate getting some credit for the hard work that they've done. Research isn't easy, trust me, I know first hand.

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You are so right, concerning the amount of time and labor that goes into research! I will endeavor to post links to, or name every source used, with each of my posts in future.
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