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Dear lance B
Wanting to learn ,the ideas of others,what may I ask is Your definition of the 3 words you asked Suzanne to explain..
Loong
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Did not author/write the words as such Loong, 'quoted' them in my post because they are quite meaningful.....they were thought up by a famous, and very clever, philosopher.
But did ask if you personally agreed with the quote, or perhaps disagreed with its sentiments. It would be interesting to know.
As it would to know your interpretation of Matrix in this context.
You yourself will know and understand how hearing other viewpoints on a topic is not only interesting, it is also worthwhile.
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Dear Lance B
If possible, without the sarcasm
Thank you
Loong
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Dear Francine,
To me the Matrix,the first,the 2 others were not necessary in some way.
I simply believe that in mansland people live in a fabricated world by company's ,by designers,they have no set path.I live in Quebec Canada ,and the quebecers are named :moutons: sheeps,because there is no backbone to this group of individuals
They just follow others lihe Moutons sheeps.Hence my quoted word of MATRIX.
YOURS
loong
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“Everyone pretends to be 'free thinkers', but few individuals pass the line into expressive territories that may be detrimental to their own social well-being.†Criss Jami
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lance B.
So you will not open my mind.
Thank you for showing me who you really are.
Loong the learner
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Normand.
I do not believe that I asked SUZANNE to explain any words-who is Suzanne or, in looking back, do you mean Francine? Moreover, obviously you need to be reminded again by a higher power at Bellaonline that just because you ask a question it does not mean that anyone is obligated to answer it (even if it is correctly asked or if it makes sense, which yours did not on both accounts!). Please note that Francine has not answered what I had asked, yet has since responded to another post at RT and I did not become upset at her for not doing so as I did not pass any judgment as to her integrity for not responding.
Last edited by LanceB.- Alter Ego; 06/03/13 01:02 PM.
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When I was taking the PSATs oh so many decades ago the essay question from that exam asked the following: Discuss this statement-THE PROBLEM WITH OPEN-MINDEDNESS IS THAT YOUR BRAINS MAY FALL OUT.
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Sorry LBAE did not see your post when I quickly checked the forum yesterday.
What are the major similarities and differences between agnosticism/atheism and Buddhism
Not answering the question directly, but interestingly there are such things as Buddhist Atheists and Buddhist Agnostics.
So the way an atheist believes we can know as a fact whether there is a God or not, while an agnostic holds their judgement, a Buddhist Atheist can question the Buddhist theory of Karma and Rebirth as one example, dismissing it as being 'rubbish' if you like, while a Buddhist Agnostic questions but does not dismiss it out of hand.
Having an open opinion about rebirth, and that one is basically punished or rewarded by karma in a new life, is understandable. Although whatever one says, or believes, about Karma it is a fact that the effect of what we have done in our lives lives on, for good or bad, when we are no longer here.
There is apparently "instant Karma" while we are still here.
Anyhow a type of karma remains whether we come back in one form or another to see or experience it, or not.
The Buddha taught that there was no “Iâ€, that it is necessary to be aware we have a responsibility to the wider world and the world we personally share we others, both while we are living it and with a thought to what we will leave behind. We are not here permantly, neither are we autonomous entities, what we do affects others and not only now but down the line.
Our legacy if you like. Will it be positive or negative.
But that is just a part of being a human being, and so not tied to any belief system don't you think?
Also that of Atheists and Agnostics.....so a similarity?
And sometimes we manage to live to this ideal better than at other times..........because we are only Mensch, human beings. Like Buddha, he insisted he was not a god.
Lisa the Buddhism editor will know the answer to the theory and beliefs of Buddhism in depth and far better than I do, while in relation to Atheism and Agnosticism, can only give my own interpretation and would imagine an agnostic would have more in common with someone who follows Buddhism than an atheist.
If you like an Atheist believes in a certainty, an Agnostic 'sits on the fence'.
And as there is often discussion as to whether Buddhism is a philosophy or a religion there is already some 'fence sitting' going on.
As you know it does not involve believing or not beliving in God or gods, and Buddha said he was not to be worshipped as one, however it is common for people to pray to either the Buddha or one, perhaps many, other figures. There are altars with a Buddha figure around which people leave offerings.
Nevertheless there is a school of opinion which believes Buddhism is actually a form of Atheism.
Just as there are several religions which believe in the same God, but approach 'His' worship in very different ways, and also various interpretations and branches of Christianity, there is a similar situation with Buddhism. It is diverse.
For some Buddhism is simply a form of practice, a way of life and thinking. It could even be that Buddist history as such, including the life of Buddha, is of no interest to them, to others it is a fundament.
Many have no interest in the suttas at all, some respect what they stand for, others live by them.
There is even some extremism amongst Buddhists, self immolation for political purposes would fall into that category perhaps.
Many do not eat meat, there are those that do.
Meditation and mindfulness is again a part of the regular lives of many Buddhists, but by no means all.
Etc. etc. the list is endless and would need an entire series of articles for which I am just not qualified.
Some of these differing forms of Buddhism would have similarities to Aethism or Agnosticism, others none at all.
So what are the major similarities and differences between agnosticism/atheism and Buddhism?
It comes down to the fact that we all have some type of belief, it could be 'Aethism' for example. An idea which one clings to, sometimes with indisputable evidence, in other cases with none at all but which nevertheless is, and remains, a valid 'belief', one of many but to a greater or lesser extent with similarities and differences shared between all of them.
Not really answered your question directly have I 
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Thanks Francine! As a supreme compliment, you answered the question in a most Lesty-like manner. Bless you and her!
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