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Thank you for your insight, Phyllis. Elleise's intuition was correct then to sense that "this was a larger issue" than just the house.

I sensed someone would be doing research of this area and would find a Native Indian connection to the grounds but I dismissed it because it isn't the actual problem Elleise is experiencing in the home. When I viewed the pics of the land, I did get a peaceful feeling, too.

The house is quaint and pretty but does contain negative spirit energy. My feeling is that this is not from the Native Indians but from more recent inhabitants who had been affected.

Elleise, Phyllis' suggestion to offer tobacco as a peace offering is a good idea. You can show respect for them in that way and they can be a help even with protecting you from the other spirits who linger in that house. Those most definitely can be cleared from the building.

Of course, the ultimate show of respect for their sacred grounds would be to move which was my hope from the beginning.

The other residents of your area know more than has not be reported in news articles. Things that have occurred strictly in that house.


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Originally Posted By: the eye
hi phyllis,i am the ominous eye,what a nice thoughtful researched post.


Ditto.

Phyllis is fantastic. smile

And she makes the best dream catchers, too. I have one of her creations!


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hi lori,i am the ominous eye. if it is a larger issue than the house as elleise and phyllis showed and i believe it is,then i don t see how it isn t the actual problem.that some former inhabitants fell sick before and had those problems before,that even one or two died actually seals the negative energy,but doesn t make those spirits evil.in the same way those inhabitants problem has been created by the area,so the area can only be the actual problem, and more than that its root.nature is peacefull all around and being neither negative nor positive its frequency is defferent han that of those spirits that lived on this land.they actually still live there.and for them nature is peaceful and far from being an invader.phyllis' suggestion for offerings is a good one as it creaes a different link and opens a different door for those spirits.they are he same than you and me but without a body.thgis proceeding enables a truth,until one leaves.if more experienced one can transform that negative energy into divine energy so as to dissipate any idea of polarity.those spiris anger deposied he negaive energy into the house.undoing a curse takes knowledge and more much more than clairvoyance.as to asking those spiris to clear the house i would require you to be able to break the curse and to heal them all.as those spiris were awaken and disturbed they took the land again in the spiritual realms and just defend themselves against invasion.the whole issue is about understanding,looking.you can chose to truce and leave or undertake a whole process of cleansing,which only a shaman can undertake.as everyhing is multidimensionnial and it never is only about the others,evil never knocks on someones door for nothing and is always a cause and enabler of growth when one looks beyond the concept of negative and positive,as both give rise to each other,and more positivity only creates deeper negativity,cause everything in nature needs to be balanced.so one would require to work with divine energy.as to phylis dreamcatchers i unfortunately don t own one,but if one makes good dreamcatchers he/she is also a great vision catcher and having worked with phyllis for some time now it is one of her many gifts.

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Thank you for your thoughts. I respectfully accept what you say as we all see from our own perspectives as we look upon all.

Yet, I hope we can agree to disagree in one area: "...which only a shaman can undertake."

Everyone has the power if he but claims it.


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The user was personally contacted, and the user chose to blatantly disregard my personal message to him.

The user is now BANNED.

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Oh, my goodness! Ominous Eye, I did not have your post deleted!

I also meant no disrespect in any way. I just returned from visiting my mother and aunt and then I found this.

Your response is a complete surprise to me as I was coming back after thinking about your post and I was going to apologize to you if I had offended you in any way.

You are right in saying that I did not "back up" my claim. I didn't. Everyone does have the power but does not know how to claim it. Perhaps that is how I should have stated it. But I was not going to launch into a post about claiming the power. Sorry if that bothered you.

I have no ill will towards you at all. I'm sorry and perplexed as to why you have taken such towards me.

I sincerely believe that everyone cares about Elleise and is trying to help in any way possible. In the best way he/she knows how. We're all just doing the best we can. And, if I err along the way, I hope you will forgive me because I do not do so intentionally.

My heart is heavy because the last thing I would want to do is cause bad feelings...to anyone. Please, can you just consider me an ignorant but earnest child of the universe? Learning to walk, always stumbling. frown


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Oh, Elleise...how sad about your place being built on sacred burial grounds. It's so beautiful! :/

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It's a real shame that they do not tell us these important informations when we buy a land or a house!

We did have Native Americans haunting us but when my mom found out what was going on she took care of them, all they wanted was to be heard then they were able to finally leave in peace.

Thankfully though it was not a burial ground where our house is so they were able to leave when they were finally able to tell someone what happened to them, I cannot begin to understand what it is like to live on a scared burial ground.

If they are peaceful and don't want to leave could it be possible for someone who respects that land and these people to live in peace with them? I know that for some spirits you can do that but I don't know for something like that.

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Ah! I came back to reply to your post, the eye, yet I see it was deleted. I am glad you re-posted.

I thank you, the eye, for your support and confirmation of my visionary insights to this issue. Your thoughts have broadened
and expanded the whole issue here in this thread. The real purpose here is to go forward with resolutions, as you say. I
totally agree that to become a shaman is not for everyone and takes deep serious time and study -- maybe even a few life
times to become adept at it. Not everyone can be a shaman -- one is born with the ability. That is one reason there are not
shamans in mass numbers all over the place. If you look back at all NA tribes, there was only one shaman or medicine man/woman for each tribe.

Lori and all, there is no intentional disrepect here for anyone from anyone. We all have our own thoughts and each picking up
different parts of this whole issue.

Anyway, the important thing is to get back to the real issue here, and that is to bring peace and calm to the house and restore respect and understanding to the rightful owners of the land: the Pottawatomie ancestral spirits.

The house can be occupied in peace if one takes the time and makes the effort to bring about the peace.

The eye, I will pass on to Elleise the message you spiritually received from the shaman of the ancestral spirits. That message is as follows and the choice to be open to it is up to Elleise and none other, as the Shaman requested.

I have worked closely with the eye for quite some time and can attest to the fact that he has deep awareness and knowledge of
what is going on in the spiritual realms. His greatest passion is his task in this life, which is his divine work as a healer
and spiritual teacher. He shared with me a spiritual visitation he had with the Shaman of the Pottawatomie ancestors. He was
told by the Shaman to let me pass on the message he has for this issue and I will do so. The following is what happened with the eye and what the Shaman told the eye:

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The Shaman appeared with the whole tribe standing behind him and looked towards the eye with gratitude and thanked the eye for understanding and wanting to help. The spirits are reaching out to the eye and myself, knowing that we support them, for we opened the right door that is about appeasing the spirits and that is what they need so very much.

The Shaman says that Elleise has to go now. The spirits will stop their work for awhile, if Elleise promises to go now.

The spirits want to continue living there in and near the house. Before the Shaman appeared to the eye, the eye saw that the Shaman had woke up the spirits from their sleep. The Shaman and his people are not evil, they only want peace. The spirits are bound to the land and only they can decide when or if to leave.

The wrong door was opened to the spirits and it angered them. The Shaman will keep peace if Elleise leaves now. The Shaman
wishes to direct Elleise to a place and asked that his message be given to her privately.
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I was with the eye spiritually when he received the spiritual message from the Shaman and it was a very enlightening and
profound experience -- he had a great honor bestowed upon him.


Walk in Peace and Harmony.
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