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God I AM so in love with your mind Les..

I don't mean to offend your staunch atheist logic.

In fact, I rather enjoy it.

I have been involved with several cults ( a few ) and it destroyed my life e.g. several this time I mean several incarnations, and institutionalizations -- much of the sharpness of my mind has been lost literally to Thorazine.

I believe that man and woman is god.

There is an outer god and an inner god, and everyone decides whether they shall expend their energy to either, both or none.

There is also differing levels of comprehension.

The pitiless mechanical law(s) you speak of are absolutely correct.

To deny that would be folly.

However, science continues to discover new and higher law like the idea and proof of 12 and more dimensions of existence.

I have the firm belief that in the long unwritten antediluvian past -- i.e. 350,000 years and more that civilizations of a higher order existed and we are just now trying to catch up to where we used to be !

Have you ever read this book:

www.amazon.com/Dweller-Planets-Dividing-...5059&sr=1-2

Please Reply.

-- Burt B.
P.S. How's the AHHA Anna Russian Lady Been ?
From my understanding she is a friend of yours.
Haven't heard from her lately.

Amen.

Norman, as your friend, what you have spoken here have been personal attacks.

You and Lisa < Buddhist Forum > are making great progress, and I really enjoy reading both of your posts there.

Believe me loong, I know the raw, hard-headed hate that both you and I have for being institutionalized and bankrupt from bad marriage(s) -- I do know loong -- that's why I want you to stay, because this is a place of healing.

But, Please stop calling people names.

It doesn't heal, it hurts.

There is seething hatred that others can read in your posts.

Trust me this is part of our mental illness.

And how you can flip on a dime from one extreme to the next -- I have that also, but invert it to punish myself which leads to depression which I currently take psychotropic medication for as we speak.

I don't want to see you go, but this Lisa is the owner and reserves that right at any time.

Peace Be Still and follow your path to healing and wholeness without hating or being offended by others.

This is difficult for me also loong, I have a lot of anger and hatred and damage.

We are here to heal.

Not hate or call eachother names because they are of a different mindset, opinion or wavelength then we are.

If you don't like what someone said, then let it go and let the universe take care of it.

I become extremely offended by a lot of material on this site.

I just don't go to those areas and engage the folks, because we are too far apart to even try to reconcile.

So, I let them post what they will and move on..

Sincerely,

Burt B.

Burt, you have a beautiful mind and a good heart.

Beloved Phyllis...

Why, thank you.

hehe

-- Burt B.

Hi Burt and all, From one cat admirer to another (every day my long departed 16 year old Himalayan bluepoint, Pooeyfai, provides me with warm and affectionate memories), your honest/guileless, perceptive, introspective, soul searching/soul touching, supportive of others, witty and often self-deprecating appearances here are always eagerly welcome as you provide a much needed breath of fresh air that circulates in the pursuit of assistance of others ('a beautiful mind and a good heart' indeed!). This would decidedly be the case even if this thread were not periodically invaded by unwelcome, self-serving, self-aggrandizing, directionless, substance-less, compassion-less and amorphous nothing-but-hot-air postings blowing from the arctic. Regarding Ana/AHHA, we have not been in recent contact and I only know that she is no longer an editor and her gentle ways and goat-loving presence is missed. Thrilled to see that your cat Avatar is on the loose and on the prowl again!

Thank You for that reply Les. It is heartwarming

Random Thoughts:

I have Narcissistic Personality Disorder and a host of co-morbid mental illnesses.

In order to try to treat myself, I really pursued the ' god ' thing... that is until it rendered me insane, hopeless, hapless, and more so than co-dependent -- dependent.

I never was able to move past my family or ever totally leave the family business, and now they are gone.

I'm childless, 51 and reclusive.

I enjoy being here and on occasion, I get lucky and am able to lift someone up -- that makes me happy.

Now, more Random Thoughts on well thought out atheism if you please...

Pretty !! !!!

As a (Humanistic) Naturalistic Atheistic Agnostic (NAA), the following quote from the Derbyshire Secularists and Humanists most succinctly sums up my best case rationale (hopefully, not rationalization) for a potential positive effect of religion in the lives of some individuals:SELF-DELUSION 'It is very easy for the strong-minded, highly-rational, god-free to dismiss religion as self-delusion or mass-hysteria. It may well be both but that is not really the issue. Religion may be irrational but that does not mean that it is not useful to individuals - many of whom are not strong-minded or secure in their lives. (We know that sounds patronising - but that does not make it incorrect.')

I've been extremely insecure, somewhat strong minded but deluded nonetheless.

Good stuff.

Please continue.

-- Burt B.

Perhaps religion is the God Father/God Mother of all EGO DEFENSE MECHANISMS. In Freudian psychology, defense mechanisms serve as a tactic/strategy for one's unconscious self to protect one's conscious self from experiencing anxiety, thus safeguarding the mind from feelings and cognitions that are too threatening and problematic for the ego/conscious self to cope with. Putting Freud aside as many now are inclined to do, whether or not emanating from the unconscious state or conscious state, RELIGION may be seen as the ultimate defense mechanism as it can serve (albeit in a self-delusional manifestation, oftentimes inter-generationally) to alleviate many of humanity's primal anxieties: finiteness of self; meaning of existence; need for a higher authority; relief from personal decision making/responsibility; yearning for an immortal father/mother figure; forgiveness of one's sins/inadequacies; and dread of loneliness.

Hmmm....

I had existential angst and a huge helping of inter-generational delusion.

What gets me is why do we have to search for meaning anyway ??

Most folks have a terrible hunger for this as in the case of folks who do well materially and socially and yet commit suicide.

Why do we need meaning at all ?

Is it an evolutionary tactic ?

If so, what for ?