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Originally Posted By: Cassie67
You're mentally deranged and ill, and in a lot of cases the protective agencies for animals will come and take the animals away from you.


No, I'm mentally ill and deranged and I have the papers to prove it !!!

Connie and I have 6 cats and one dog.

They were every single one abused, neglected and abandoned.

There is a thin line between sympathy and compassion.

Nature has taken the lives of 3 cats and replace 1.

The Duggars and their psychic and astral handlers know exactly what they are doing -- maybe not consciously -- but this is how it works... you are intriguied and disgusted at the same time while watching this Duggars saga work out.

You have compassion, sympathy and outrage at the same time.

They are stealing your light and your energy that you can use to build an eternal fortress in the here and the hereafter.

The Choice is yours.

But, they are so very good at what they do aren't they?

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I too have rescued many cats without homes. At one time I had 7 cats, all rescues. It is a testament to all the irresponsible owners who do not have their animals spayed or neutered, unfortunately. I took very good care of my pets like a lot of people do, but somehow if a person gathers 20 or more of them the authorities would be watching and someone would be complaining.

Even though I have made comments here I really don't care a fig about the Duggars. I happened to see the newsflash online and was shocked that something like this could even be making news. I do think it is irresponsible of them, because unborn babies have no voice, but certainly I am much too busy in my life to be affected by the Duggar's activities. I am not personally affected by how their lives turn out, nor do I care, and I don't watch their show. Never have.

I have chosen to focus my energy on getting my life together after a couple of very traumatic years, and also focusing on my boyfriend, my family, my friends, and my pets. I have become more spiritual and have found a deeper connection with my maker, and that has been my strength through the tough times.


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I've always referred to that show as "Child Hoarders." I've never seen the actual "show," but I caught a bit of a documentary on them once. Maybe they some how have enough money to financially take care of their kids, but no one has the physical or mental capabilities to care for all those kids. The part where I REALLY knew what they were doing was wrong was when they explained the "system" by which they raise the family. This system essentially breaks down to them pawning off a younger kid onto an older kid for them to take care of and raise. The kids take care of looking after each other while mom focuses on her current pregnancy and dad is busy preaching or whatever. I'm also not pleased with how they treat the girls, thinking how they don't need educations, all they need is to learn how to be "mommies." I guess the last one is just my opinion and dislike of their personal beliefs. Still, I can't find any way to rationalize having so many kids that they could never possibly give each of them the time necessary for a child to feel truly appreciated as an individual.

Like I said. Child Hoarders.

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Isn't there such a thing as child hoarding? Because frankly, I think that woman's just trying to start her own clan or something.

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Originally Posted By: Dolyn
This system essentially breaks down to them pawning off a younger kid onto an older kid for them to take care of and raise. The kids take care of looking after each other while mom focuses on her current pregnancy and dad is busy preaching or whatever. I'm also not pleased with how they treat the girls, thinking how they don't need educations, all they need is to learn how to be "mommies."


I come from a Catholic background, and that is exactly the system they used. My mom had an aunt with 12 kids, and the eldest girl my mom called Miss Meanie when mom was 14. Years later she realized that Miss Meanie wanted to be a nurse, but could not. I dated a Catholic girl from a family of 12 and her older sisters decided to be spinsters... she laughed at them... I guess she's not laughing now... She wanted to have several kids... um, I was 22 no stable career, and she was 20 young, dumb and full of you know what... um.. I was involved with a 30 yr. old at the time who said she wish she had waited. After a while I just threw in the towel with the whole kids thing. Until this civilization rips itself apart because of money or we get a grip and mover toward treating human beings like human beings... then well, kids ain't for me! Don't worry about the Duggars... they will be responsible in the here and hereafter however they treat them kids!

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While personally I couldn't care less about The Duggars, it's certainly not right to try and teach a little girl that she has no greater purpose in life than to be a baby factory when she grows up. I understand that in some parts of the world, that's just the culture. But here in America, people do have the legal right to all the liberties that the constitution gives us and that includes the pursuit of happiness. Unfortunately, by the time most children in that kind of a situation are old enough to pursue what makes them happy, they've been brainwashed into thinking that having children is what they want because it's what mommy and daddy wanted for them. And God forbid they ever disappoint mommy and daddy. It's a fact that mom and dad won't always be there to tell you what to do, so that's why I've always believed it was wrong for parents to try and create little replicas of themselves. It's much better for parents to teach their kids to be independent and think for themselves, especially girls. Too many girls these days fall victim to the delusion that the only way to have a happy family is to get married and be a mommy. Then they end up with some jerk who treats them terrible. Congratulations to the parents of that girl for destroying her life and to that girl for not knowing how to make her own choices.

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Dolyn.....there IS no way to rationalize having so many kids. Whatever their reasons are, each of their children deserves to be treated as individuals, deserve a decent education so they can support themselves (the days of women staying home being barefoot and pregnant is pretty much a thing of the past), and they deserve to enjoy just being a "kid", engaging in activities geared towards kids and having time with their friends to develop good social behavior. Do these kids even have any friends?

Having their older children pretty much raising their young babies is selfish, and just not fair to those older children. If they wanted the babies they ought to raise the babies themselves. I guess it has occurred to them that it is too much work for just two adults to mandate so many young kids. Yet still they want more.

Those poor kids have plenty of time to raise children of their own. Childhood is too short already. They shouldn't have to care for their parents' babies. I feel bad for those kids, but I am sure the real problems from this twisted system of the parents won't show up until the kids are out on their own and they get a taste of the REAL world.


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Just read online that Mrs. Duggar lost the baby. She miscarried in the second trimester. Sounds like she never knew this happened until a doctor's appointment confirmed it. They are planning to hold a funeral.

We had wondered why someone would want to have so many kids. In the report I read Mrs. Duggar had previously lost a baby during her second pregnancy because she was on oral birth control. It did not say if she was on the meds and didn't know she was pregnant. After that incident the Duggars decided to leave the number of kids they have up to God.


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Well, I agree that it is too many kids and I don't have any interest in them or what they do. I agree that they are risking the health and well-being of her and any future kids they have because of her age. They don't care, (well, they probably do) because to them it is God's will that they have these kids and if the kids are anything less than healthy, then that is also God's will. It comes down to their religion and faith, not reason. I don't, nor will I ever, understand this.


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I was also thinking this sounded like child hoarding.

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