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Nothing wrong with being Christian, Catholic, Hindu, Wicka, Buddist or anything else. The only thing that makes someone wrong is when they look down on those they disagree with. I'm glad you all are here though.

Exactly.
Why can everyone leave everyone else alone ?
But no, the human ego has to put down someone else to feel better!
And most of them use religion as an excuse.. yep excuse!

I agree with you all. Many of the babies born in society today are "oopsie" babies......forgot to take the pill, didn't put the condom on in the heat of the moment, took care of precautions and the precautions failed, or even didn't bother at all with considering any type of birth control. It is complete and utter irresponsibility, and I have stated my view on this in my past posts, as others of you have as well.

People do not want to be held accountable for their actions.....

My brother is expecting a child now.....with a girlfriend he tried to dump before she announced she was pregnant. She is a user and a floozy, and birth control was not used just to please her....before he found out what kind of a woman she really is. So now he's got the "oopsie" baby coming, all because he was "irresponsible", and he is going to raise this child with someone he earlier decided was not a woman of quality, and he wanted her out of his life.

I really love my brother, don't get me wrong. But I don't think irresponsible people have a right to bring kids into the world under these circumstances. Everyone has free will and free choice so the irresponsibility goes on. It is sickening to me, and just an excuse for poor judgement and behavior.

I am Christian too, and I will be d@mned if anyone tells me that I can't take birth control to protect myself against unwanted pregnancy. Do you think I forget to take a pill on time every day? Hell no! I do not agree with all that the Roman Catholic church dictates, but I choose to stay in the religious affiliation because that is how I was raised and I do believe most of the teachings. I do the best I can with what I don't agree with. I think there needs to be a bit of updating in the practices of this church to meet the needs of modern times, but I doubt I will ever see it.

To know that there is 7 billion people now in the world is not an exciting fact to me, but a worry that we are so darn overpopulated, using up valuable resources and as a result causing a lot of problems in the world today. There just is not enough responsibility and forethought in regards to having children anymore. I don't knock the people who can afford it and who are in stable relationships, who have the right attitude about raising responsible kids, and who have thought it out and decide to have a child or two.....or even three.

I do not agree with actions some people take or don't take to prevent pregnancy just because they want to satisfy their own selfish needs in the sack, and then "oops".....there is the baby. And I certainly don't support the actions of the so-called "devout" people who think it is ok to have 10 or more kids. They get on tv, become famous, and then profit from their excess and the burdens they place on this planet and society in general.

Just ridiculous.....

If that's not bad enough, then there's all the parents who don't even know how to deal with children once they start growing up. I saw another piece on the news about this guy who's trying to sell this "Total Transformation" program. But to me, it simply seems like a way to keep a tight leash on a free spirit. If you don't understand what makes it tick, then just control it completely. I think too many parents are expecting this perfect "cookie cutter" child, and when they don't get what they're expecting, they place the blame on their children. Then they seem to think this program is some huge help, where as all it is is essentially another way to control everything the child does. In the end, even if they don't show it, that just makes them resent their parents more. The real solution to not knowing how to approach a child with behavior problems is just to not have them. There's nothing worse than when parents just revert to ways to control their kids completely because they don't know how to deal with that child's behavior. Especially when that person should NEVER have been a parent to begin with. I watched this happen to a good friend of mine. She goes by Piper now (had her name changed after leaving home.)Keep in mind this girl was a 21 year old adult at the time this was happening. She still lived at her house so she could go to school. Her mother made her go to bed at a certain time every night, wouldn't let her say things she didn't like, wouldn't let her watch shows she didn't like, wouldn't let Piper use her phone or computer while she wasn't at home to watch her and wouldn't let her go anywhere that Madame couldn't be there to watch her constantly. Then there was everything else, like the fact that Piper was basically a maid to this lady. Just a robot that did what she was told. What's worse is that Piper was ADOPTED. Purely because this woman wanted a servant, not because she wanted a child to love at all. It was horrible to watch happen to a dear friend, and though I urged her to get help many times, she ended up just moving in with some other friends. I still talk to her, but because she doesn't know that much about the world due to her mother's strict control, the people she's living with just keep her around to get money out of her. It's pretty sad. But it's what happens when irresponsible people try to raise kids they shouldn't have.

How many of the 7 billion people living on Earth could end up marrying a sibling, without knowing because of all the IVF, egg and sperm donation babies being born?

People are creating other human beings in test tubes and laboratories adding to the population. Contraceptives are either forbidden or unavailable in some countries of the world. Condoms don't seem to be the answer and there is no question of involuntary sterilization. Abortion is murder and restricting the number of children a couple can have is inhumane.

There is enough Water on Earth for every living thing, but we abuse Water and destroy it, like we abuse everything here on Earth.

There are already more than 7 billion people on Earth as I type. Humans will continue to be born until the last human. This world will end some day, so why worry about the growing population? This is the way it is nothing is going to change for the better it is only going to get worse.

We should all be taking responsibility for our own actions but that is not the way life is. Nothing we do or say is going to change the increasing population, this is life on Earth, we are human beings and this is what we do. Breed!

When will the human being learn to live together in peace and harmony and co-operate with one another? The answer is NEVER!

Using the term "Breed" makes people sound like horses or something. And yes, I do know that humans are animals as well. But it is NOT what ALL humans do. There are women who choose to have children and those who don't. There are men who chose to have children and those who don't. And as for those creating humans in laboratories, well it's just that they don't want to be alone so badly, they're willing to go to ANY LENGTHS at all to get what they want because they are selfish. Bringing life into this world is a matter of choice -though not always a well-thought out one- no matter how you look at it. Those people who go to sperm banks and laboratories to have children, what are they doing? Making a choice. Those people who don't use protection make a choice to not be careful. And the people who don't allow access to things as important as birth control are stupid but they are still making a choice to do what they believe is right. There's nothing worse than giving birth to a child when it's not wanted. The child resents it's parents, the parents resent the child and it always results in a broken home. And just like you alluded to, people on Earth are always going to do as they want. Doesn't that also mean we have the right to be worried about things like over-population, pollution and what kind of world our descendants will have to live in after we are gone? That's the problem with a lot of people anymore is that they think only about the now, what's happening while we're alive. I want to try to think how future generations are going to deal with the world's problems and I most definitely wouldn't want any relatives of mine struggling to survive on a weakened planet with no water to drink, little good food to eat and waste piling up all around them. It really sounds like I'm arguing with you here, but that's not my intention. There are just a lot of reasons the men and women on this site have for not wanting kids, and what will eventually happen in the future is one of them. Then there's always knowing they won't make good parents, personal morals and their individuals pasts. Because there is no exact definition of what it is to be human, we have to figure that out for ourselves. To say that every one must have kids because it's what we do is loose logic at best. It's not what everyone does. I didn't. My friends haven't. The majority of the people on this site haven't. That said, I don't disrespect women and men who want children at all. It probably sounds like that, with the way I talk but it's not true. Like you said, people who want kids will continue to have them until they can't anymore.

I totally agree with what you say Sam B. I have no argument with anything you have said.

People were given brains, but they don't use them. Selfish yes, thinking about the future generations, no. But that is what we are. Worry about it if you like, but surely it is better to do something. Worrying brings on indigestion.

Actions speak louder than words.

Good thread Sam B.

Oh! except for the bit about humans being animals, that we are not.

That is actually an insult to animals. We were given the freedom of choice and consciousness. And everything breeds, except of course those who chose not to.

And I have no argument with that either. I didn't actually realise it was the Married No Kids site, I just saw the thread title and responded.

Every human being has the right to make its own choices, right or wrong, good or bad. But maybe a little thought is required as you say.

I chose to have two children, my sisters chose to have six and four. My sons have chosen not to have children, and I respect every one of their choices.

Sam B.....in reading your post I just had to respond. I agree with you that people will go to ANY lengths to satisfy their selfish needs to have kids, even spending tens of thousands of dollars to try to achieve conception in the laboratory. Is this how we were meant to reproduce? Where is the love in this act?

If someone really wants kids and can't have them physically there are other options available out there. There are many kids in foster care, kids from irresponsible parents who never wanted them in the first place and gave them up at birth, or from parents who turned out to be drug addicts and could not care for their children so the children were taken away. There are children who were removed from their homes because of abuse, neglect, or poor living conditions because their parents did not provide the love, protection, and basic needs that every child deserves.

Yes, these children would be a handful to take into your home, but if someone really wants to be a parent to a child then why not help these kids in need if you cannot physically have your own children? Or even if you do have your own kids already, instead of having baby after baby why not help the needy kids already out there?

I'll tell you why not. Because parents-to-be want that "perfect child", the one that does not exist, so it can only come from their own bodies. The thought of bringing a troubled child into their home is just too stressful, yet the child they might have on their own could turn out just as troubled, if not worse. These days you can do everything right in raising your kid and they can turn around and land in jail for any number of things, including murder.

With so many children out there in foster care and up for adoption, I can only think that people in general are too selfish and concerned with their own wants and needs to deal with the young people who really need the help now, who really would benefit from loving parents and a stable home environment. It is a shame.

I know of more than one couple where there were adult children from a previous marriage, but now in the new relationship the couple wants more kids. After age 40 it is difficult if not impossible to conceive, so off to the fertility clinic they go. Many years and $50K later, they have twins at the mother's age of 48. That money sure could have been better spent, and some needy child or children could have been helped years earlier. These selfish parents could have made a big difference in a troubled child's life. They certainly had the money to blow.

I am off the band wagon now.....

I know the problem with many women is all the channels you have to go through to get birth control. The prescription from the doctor, the testing the cost of the pill itself. Personally, those weren't of any significance to me. What I am saying here is that they should make the pills a little more accessible instead of making the process of getting it as embarrassing, stressful and long as possible.