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Hehe, thanks...its going to take a lot more than 1 heated argument to get rid of me. ;-P

Rebecca, that's totally the thing, there are good mums out there like you who believe in common decency and consideration for others, but they seem to be going into hiding more and more. And the thing is we learn most of our parenting from our own parents so each generation is going to get worse and worse. Gaynor, you've hit the nail on the head. The main reason I chose not to have children, the original observation that put me off, is that I am not going to put any human being through going to school with some of the brats that now frequent school. Yes there are still good kids, but unfortunately the bad ones are increasing in number and they have the biggest influence over other kids' education. I was bullied at school for having well above average intelligence, chances are my kid would be reasonably smart, but it's even worse to be smart nowadays than it was when I was at school, the role models are all overnight success reality TV stars rather than people who have worked hard and earned their success. I just cannot put another human being through that or any of the stuff that is now going on today (having to work till we die cause of pension shortfalls and stuff).

I am a frequent (weekly) traveler. I can tell you that I spent many years being frustrated and annoyed at the swarm of idiot parents (moms and dads) out there. My favorite was when mom laid little Johnny down in the AISLE of the plane to change his poopy diaper. Never mind the two available lavs. It was really great to see the kid pee all over her and the poor passenger next to her. I take these fleeting bouts of insanity by others to revel in being CF. I also will laugh at these same idiots and be happy when they hear me do it. I have been also known to trip or otherwise "discipline" an out of control child if they are within arms-length (nothing bad, chill). I think they need to learn the world is a dangerous place, no one else appears to be teaching them. I also don't mind telling the little bugger to go away if he/she is bothering me (I tend to be a magnet). My proudest moment was holding a toddler in midair who I had watched wandering from gate to gate. Asking (yelling, really) "Whose is this?" and then releasing the wayward child to a young mom who had been on the cell phone paying no attention at all. I said "That's a good way to end up on the news." As I said, idiots.

Catluvgal is so right. Nothing bothers me more than watching the parents of today's world who are oblivious as to what their little darlings are doing...texting porn to each other, picking on children who want to be something besides a rapper or sports star, and so on. They don't realize that their letting "little Johnny find himself" is the source of so many of today's problems. Watch how dumb these kids are working at the grocery or fast food stores! Heaven forbid one of them gets a job at NASA...and blows something up. The parenting attitudes that are fashionable today are going to be a disaster to the future of those children who are trying to make something of themselves.

Catluvgal, that is brilliant! Maybe I will start to take that action when I see a child separated from its parents, although I'll need to start working out it happens so much.

You also remind me of another event that occured this year.

My partner and I were sitting in an airport cafe when a family came in with a very new-born baby. They proceeded to sit there chatting to a friend they'd bumped into while their baby screamed away. True to form said child was going to be on MY flight (aaaaaaaaaaargh). The conversation with the friend yielded that after my flight they were taking a connecting flight from Gatwick to New York !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, there just aren't enough exclamation marks in the world for that brilliant piece of information.

Sure enough the child was sat directly behind me on my flight with both parents and another passenger. The child had screamed from entering the airport lounge and was still screaming. There were some empty sets of seats throughout the plane and a member of cabin crew felt bad for the parents it would seem (!!!!... you get the idea) and asked if they would like to move to one of the empty 3-seat sections so they would "have more room". What on earth!

The very quick passenger sat next to them said, to his credit, "Oh, it's probably just easier if I move to one of those and then you'll still have 3-seats available to you." Good for him, taking his chance to escape. Still left me with this flaming, screaming child behind me for the entire flight.

Why on earth did the cabin crew not see fit to ask those around the baby if they would like to move further away? I mean really, if I was cabin crew I would totally have shown some respect and decency to the poor people who paid to be on a flight (not half-price like the baby will have paid) and were having to suffer this trauma.

And when I say traua, I do not exaggerate, I suffer from misophonia. Misophonia isn't just the simple dislike of certain noises that some people think it is, I have had my brain waves measured while having an induced attack and my brain does go into overdrive causing me to go into a rage then eventually to hit out as I try and escape the situation because I literally feel like my head is about to explode and I don't want it to.

This condition is very common among those with even mild mental illness, people with no health conditions, and particularly common among people with Aspergers or Autism (of which there are many and likely to be at least one on any given flight). Why are the rights of people like us not considered, we're not the ones causing a disturbance to others after all?