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Shannon, this is something I also worry about. There are chronic illnesses among my family and friends. My young nephew has a serious heart condition and will be needing another artery replacement within the next 2 years. He's only 5 and this will be a recurring need until he is fully grown.

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A good friend of mine buys all her drugs from Canada and has not experienced any major problems in quality or shipping. Hope this might help a little.

Think of it this way...the upcoming event(s) are going to be a type of weed-out process. One (1) to three (3) months supply of anything critical and non-critical should be sufficient enough to last until order is re-established. I will talk more about this later. Keep in mind the word SURVIVE means: TO OUTLAST...

I'm going through these one by one and commenting.

The first thing that came to me while reading yours ICP was solar is best. I'm still trying to at least generalize time line.

There was a time when it was so emotional I couldn't even write about it. All I would say and cry at the same time was, "Oh, the people." One of those things where you keep it down inside and all of the sudden an egg you're scrambling cracks on the floor and not the pan and all this other stuff comes to the surface.

My parents don't live through this, meaning experience it. It comes later. So, that gives me some sort of a time line. They will endure pits and dips but not this thing. So they are in their 70/80's. I almost want to say 18 is near, 25, 27 it's here. But i WANT to check on this further.

But solar, you want solar. I don't see where batteries will be something freely available. The stores deplete. Unless there's a way to recharge them naturally, I want to find a nother way. Crank radio, cbs, all good.

I also want to offer solace in a way. It might feel paranoid because it isn't here yet, but when all is said and done you won't look back on it and feel the same way ((hugs))

storing (reasonably) and learning survival techniques doesn't hurt anyone. Sling shot, practice your aim, pocket knife (the ones with all of the tools and other more mature knives) are something that will help too. You might even want to stock up on some type of lighter, like the bic ones, not so much matches - they get wet and I don't know this for certain but wonder if they don't go dead after awhile. If you know how to use a flint stone, even better.

What's wierd for me, is that what I feel doesn't come like the movies or some crazed end of the world scenario, it's like little things start to happen, accumulate, there's a lot of cover up, like don't worry but you'll be the ones without ATMs, utilities, water, food, etc. You need to be able to weather these waves because the people who aren't planning end up losing their minds and won't think straight.

If you have land, start with a few herbs and grow from there, literally

That really resonates Jade - outlast...that's the reason for these "in between" people. There are almost helpers, preparers, disguised as people in the physical day in day out.

I know there are millions of others feeling it. It calls to them in a spiritual and hollistic manner. But connecting the dots and living in society is something they're slowly coming to terms with.

Outlasting gets us from here past this thing to there. Great word!

Jade, are all of these new executive orders>? do I have the wording right or execution orders. I mean have they been in place for some time or are these new. If they are new they will give me more of a time line. Thank you for your efforts.

In all of its beauty Shannon, you did come from a harsher life and the spirit (inside) is almost rebelling. May or may not make sense. But what you feel is literally eating you apart. I have some expereince with this...

What's that saying? "You can't fight crime without experienceing it" or something like that.

I know I have to put some exclaimer somewhere I just dont' know exactly how to go about doing it.

But medically speaking and this isn't to replace doctors anyone is seeing but may be able to be used in conjunction.

But, medical supplies will go through stages. They'll be hard to get, the gov gives people a way to get them and then there's a turn. That's what I feel. I can't quite get a nab on it though, because you would think that once it's set up it's ...oh

AGE

ok..need to sit on this

I grew up in the mountains of Oregon, so i�m hoping my survival knowledge doesn�t let me down. It�s a bit rusty but when it comes down to it, i have not completely forgot the things i learned from my father.
I live now in a small city with lots of woodys areas all around us, so we can also go there.
Practice and preparing.

I did a little checking on the Executive Orders Jade listed for us last night. Most of them date back to Kennedy, which makes sense as the Cold War was ramping up (Cuban Missile Crisis) These include 10990-11051. Johnson issued #11310 in 1966, Ford issued #11921 in 1976, and then Clinton consolidated a bunch of them in 1994. The Bosnia area was at war and the LA earthquake was in early 1994.

Executive Orders can provide for important changes or be simply for recognition, pardons, etc. Unlike laws passed by Congress, they are reversible, but may be useful in setting precedence or temporary seizure of power and authority.

During Clinton's 2 terms, he issued 363 Executive orders, an average of 3.78 per month. Bush issued 288 during his 2 terms for an average of 3 per month. The records for Obama I could find covered the period Jan 21, 2009 to May 21, 2010 with 54 being issued for an average of 3.38 per month.

This may seem like a lot, but many are only for recognition, such as declaring November as Native American Month (just an example, I'm not certain if that was by Executive Order or passed by Congress)

As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong) if these are not reversed, they are still in force, and current presidents can reverse executive orders issued by previous presidents.

"Oh The People" Elleise, I know exactly what you mean. When I dream about something, I also start grieving. No matter how hard I push it to the side for everyday existence, the grief can pop through and reduce me to either tears or complete numbness. Sentimental TV commercials get me every time. The numbness took over this week and I'm still fighting it. My daughter is bringing her wedding dress down on Sunday for alterations. I should be so excited, but I'm just numb. Thankfully, she knows what I'm going through first hand, and understands.

I feel guilty at times, as my grieving begins well before the event. By the time "it" happens, I am so relieved, physically and mentally. I can feel the pressure on my shoulders lift instantly. I feel guilty because it feels SO good, at a time with others are in shock and facing the grief, I've already endured. I know I shouldn't personalize this, but sometimes it's very hard not to. I was talking with a dear friend yesterday and commented, "This will happen and I'll FINALLY get some relief, but at what cost for others."

I realize my impact in prevention is nil, in altering, perhaps miniscule. But I can still try and at least be prepared to assist after "it" happens. I worked through the shock last year and dealing with the grief now. When this finally happens, hopefully I'll have a clear head. I might be a little closer than I realize. Last night I dreamed of the most beautiful, strong and healthy Bald Eagle I have ever seen. There is so much positive symbolism in that for me.

As for the portable solar generator I'm looking into, it can power several things, including my recharging station for batteries and our portable power pack. The power pack and rechargeable batteries provide additional storage, making the solar generator more productive, and the energy even more portable. These are temporary measures, as rechargable batteries of all types die eventually. But should work for a few months with a good battery supply.

We can also use the solar generator to power and recharge a few things in our small RV when we go camping. It will be useful now as well.