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I've begun posting questions I get through the emails I recieve or questions that have come up during readings with a client. This one is dear to my heart!
There are so many books out there that speak openly of angels and guides and the spiritual gifts and divinity behind clear-seeing. But I have heard and experienced the other side of seeing a world, the world spends all of eternity living in illusion from.
I remember a time I had even decided to pick a fight with God for making me this way. It took 20 years to come not only to terms with, but to openly offer the reality of its existence.
I think this is especially hard on younger people who have heightened abilities but live in a fast paced technological world. What do you think?
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Not cursed. But crazy. For most of my life, I've felt like I walked along the edge of sanity for having visions.
In fact, it is only recently that I have accepted that I am one who recognizes my other senses more than the typical person here on earth. I have worked for so long to push away and ignore these "scary" things, thinking that it was the dark side bothering me or even my mental health being compromised.
If this were a "gift" than it should benefit me or someone else, right? It was only tormenting me. I did not want to be an open microphone for any passing spirit nor waste my earth life in giving energy to disembodied entities who chose darkness over light.
I chose the Christ! Everyone told me that since I chose Christ, I am not to be a "peeping wizard" (a Bible term) or dabble in the occult. Clairvoyance, mediumship, etc.
BTW, do you think that clairvoyance is an occult practice like tarot?
So to answer your question, I don't feel cursed, but confused, crazy and curious.
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You know, I searched (at one time) high and low for biblical references on sight/visions. The one that seemed to always pop out at me was the:
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Even when I was looking into spiritual churches, my husband then would share what happened to me and they'd pull me aside - like a good friend and would say, "You know what the bible says about prophcey..."
I'd usually say something like, "Not off hand, but whatever it is, I'm sure it's misunderstood like everything else in the bible that people kill eachother over knowing best what it means." That would just come off the top of my head but seemed to leave them in a daze.
But, no I don't feel clairvoyance and other out of the ordinary abilities are cults, however, I do believe that 90% of what's out there in the forms of commercializing what clairvoyance and psychic abilities are and can do for you is packaged to sell and exagerated. So the gift, in turn is misunderstood.
In less than 5 minutes I can feel whether something or someone is sincere or forthcoming. I believe also, very much, that certain psychics are going to pick up certain things while other pick up on other things. Like playing a piano each individual is going to have a style and a sensitivity to certain areas. It's very much like music. Like you have an orchestra for a full piece of music, a group of sensitives (egos aside) could make for a wonderful investigative team.
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My friendly flippant answer is: Only when I have to keep my mouth shut!:)
The answer you are looking for is yes. That is why it was so easy to shut down. Human nature gets threatened by anything different. Intolerant of a 'know it all'.
Besides who wants to deal with anyone that is so full of unbalanced judgmental doubt and accuses you of being a false prophet. That hurts. Especially when you know you are so repeatedly correct.
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It's funny you mention, "Especially when I have to keep my mouth shut" lol. Before I mentor or help develop any degree of clairvoyant skill, I ask people what they feel they'd like to do once they gain control and develop their sensitivities. I'll give a few examples of how knowing things about family members, spouse, child, mother, father, coworkers, government, etc. might affect them and how they might feel knowing things before others have had a chance to feel them in their own skin and won't usually want to know, whether they deep down know you're probably right or not. I'm usually standing in a place where I feel something or see something and can turn a person a millidegree to their left or right and they'll walk smack dab into this or that (what they're looking for) and get on with their lives. It's not usually that simple. People need to learn that millidegree for themselves no matter how much self torture they need to endure. It's what they know, what feels comfortable and safe, even if it makes them unhappy and if they are close to us, it's almost inhumane when they are hurting not to comfort them or worse, because we are always there in the vacinity end up getting sucked into the negativity or inadvertantly taken for granted or resented for what we knew. It's a slippery slope... 
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When I was a child I had dreams, de ja' vouis (sp), and visions, I knew things that a child would not know.....all the adults that I told about things were very harsh and insistent that no one! let alone a child could do or feel or know such things as I told them about.....so I hid my gifts and refused the information that was available to me for many years. I wanted to be accepted and loved just like everyone else so I hid what I knew and I told no one about the things I knew and could not explain how I knew it, I tried to fit in and be "normal" but as I grew up and read and found out that others had similar experiences and also were thought of as crazy, ridiculous or just flat out lairs concerning what they could hear, see or do.
I have decided that I am not crazy and I know that what I can do scares people so I usually don't tell anyone about anything I see or know unless spirit insists that I say some thing specific to someone. I just tell them "I don't really know why I have to tell you this, but hopefully it will make sense to you"......and then I say what I am instructed to, and leave it with them, I don't answer questions or make excuses or explanations.
I have had people I know or worked with, tell me later that what I said to them made no sense at the time but later they knew what it was about.
I feel God guides my words and thoughts in these instances and many times I do not remember what I have said to someone, I always feel like it is someone else talking through me. And as I am able to feel the thoughts and feelings of those around me I am very aware that I scare them and they think I am crazy or possessed or something similar. Sometimes it feels very bad, however I know that I am not crazy, and I believe that God is using me to accomplish things here in our human world, and sometimes I wish that I could be like everyone ordinary on this earth, but I feel that I agreed to do as God sees fit for me to do.
Many times the gift has felt more like a curse than a gift but I think it is part of who God made me to be so it is absurd to try to me normal and denigh what I can do and who I was born to be.
I basically avoid religion as most religious people are very judgmental, I consider my self very spiritual and I do not see things such as Tarot as evil and far less so than some of the thoughts and judgments I feel directed at me from supposed to be loving Cristian people. I consider it a way to clarify information from God into more understandable information, much of what I receive comes in pictures and feelings and sometimes I need a method to help me understand what I am meant to know, sometimes I write, and sometimes I use cards, as they have predefined meanings they are very translatable and easy to understand. Astrological occurrences affect me on a very physical and emotional level and I have virtually no means to protect myself from the planetary changes that affect me so dramatically sometimes.
I feel very blessed to have found others to talk to that understand some of what I am going through and are not afraid or think I'm crazy........bless you all and thanks for being here!
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I'm glad you're here, Paula. Deep in my heart I know there are others, so many too.
I always tell my husband the reason we're so spread out (the extremely, highly troubled, lol individuals) is because if we weren't we'd never venture outside of the comfort zone we have together.
I think experimenting with what feels right or wrong, eventually brings us the right place. I'm still searching myself for a place I can at least feel comfortable living but also a place I feel comfortable working with what I do have.
I really like the way you found to work with your gifts. I also believe, like you, that guides and information work through us. I have the exact same thing, where I'll say something during a reading or on a train/airport and I won't be able to recall it. I call it swiss-cheese syndrome. 15 or so years ago, I blocked/turned off everything I felt or saw. I wouldn't pay any attention or credence to it. I have to say it was exactly like going from color television to a world of black and white. It was flat.
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Hi Elleise and Paula,
Can we ever really block what we receive? I have not found a way to do that, even when I am not paying attention, or even when I tried to "shut down" there was always a part of me that was aware, be it through dreams or some other force.
For those of us that have heightened abilties, I think we just need to learn to accept that we have these abilities, and we can choose to work with them or not. We do not have to act on every piece of information we receive, and we normally do know what information to share and what to keep to ourselves. Like all things in life, we can use discretion, even when we have information.
I can't say that I have ever been able to shut down my abilities, but I have had periods of being "less aware".
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I think shutting down was probably not accurate. Where as before I had an unsuspecting innocense/purity, it was all natural and didn't understand it was different, etc. That was replaced with, how should I say this, raw anger and being fed up with having to feel things the entire network populous of my life pretended wasn't real even though i would feel it and later would be affirmed by something physical, like that teacher being arrested.
I remember even picking up or "seeing" some church politics, while going to school there, I couldn't understand or describe anymore than just telling my parents I felt one of the priests was in danger. That's how I percieved it.
I was or would always try to be around playing in the distance or just making a point to say hi, trying to protect him. He was sent away a few months later when we came back from the holidays. My mom explained priest often transfer, but I said, ya, but this is different.
The priest came back a year or so later and I ran up to him and said, what happened? HE was very kind and said, some of the priest didn't like his teaching techniques and thought he'd be better suited elsewhere, neear chicago. He was hopeful he could come back. I told him I thought he was great. I remember he always played basket ball with us during the lunch hour.
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When i was nine I started seeing colours surrounding the teachers at my school. One day i was so dazzled by one teacher I walked straight to her and said: You are surrounded by a golden halo! and she gave me the strangest look. Ever since then I have been able to disern aura's.
At age 12 I was feeling others. I wouldnt say it was their thoughts, but I knew how they were feeling. This was one gift that made me feel crazy. These days Ive learned to sit with the emotion and if I feel it is the right time, I will ask them if they are feeling ok. If it is an emotional issue then I will often feel it hit my heart first and I will find myself begin to be drawn into their emotions. I can sometimes pull back others it can be very strong. If it s physical ailment I will feel it as they would, but its almost as if it come to me in waves..
Lately i have been feeling a persons pain before they do. I have a friens with chronic back pain and I took her shopping. BAM! yep, i had her back pain. I turned to her and said: You havnt got a sore back by any cahnce have you? She laughed and said she'd never felt better as she ahd taken pain relief. But within three hours the pain relief and worn off, the pain left me and she was in bed for the rest of the afternoon. There could be a very reasonable explanation for that but meh..
Ive had my ability to sense another person stretched to the limit recently. Normally, I need to be in a 100km radius. Outside that and their energy feels weaker and weaker until they are gone. But in the last six weeks I have been able to sense a person i care deeply for from New Zealand to America. it was weak at first but I worked on it and found that after 5 weeks I could sense them as well as I could if they were next door. One time, i called and they wer very upset: their football team had lost lol I had a sense to call them so I did.. they ended up asking how I knew taht they wanted to talk to me lol
Anyway, sometimes i feel like my gifts are a curse, especially when I am in a supermarket (before i was able to block) and became bomboarded by everyone around me. Those are the days I hide away in a cave lol
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