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icp you've touched on so many relevant issues. I would catagorize same like 'sense' feelings as well from light headedness to those prickly sensations. Nausea is the big one for me. If I feel that - that's it, hands down all around bad...it literally feels like I'm drowning in upheaval.

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Elleise
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I'm not diminishing it, just checking if there's any scientific evidence to back up your statement which has been presented as fact, not just personal experience. If I accept your statement as fact then I would be basing my belief on here say.

I've had all sorts of unusual experiences but I couldn't present them as factual statements as they were personal, internal responses to a given environment.

Maybe there will be definitive proof that people can affect the electrical charge in the air around them, that this can be scientifically recorded and the affected area measured. However there has been a lot of research already into this field, and also to establish proof that auras can be viewed, and as yet the results remain inconclusive and the experience subjective.

Thank you for clarifying your statement though.

You're almost getting into physics here. I'm just speaking for myself here, but charges & electrodes are something I couldn't even begin or have even the faintest energy or desire to prove.

As sure as I'm sitting here, though, someone or some group will prove to fact in the future - these types of activities will be sensored or found of the brain, specifically. All of this will be not only acceptible in the future but I feel, desired in developing - like for jobs, govt, etc. Like an asset. I Can't prove that either, we'll just have to wait and see.

But for right now, I can offer this. There is currently brain activity associated with a malalignments so to speak, of what a person knows to be true and what they are going out of their way to produce in fabrication. Whether that's negative or positive - who knows? I would guess there would have to be chemistry of the person, backgrounds/what they are use to (maybe they are more uncomfortable with the truth, thus lieing becomes choice), personalities - all sorts of issues that would have to be weighed.

As simple as I am in mind, here's my scientific proof for the time being - lies take energy of whatever (positive or negative) and we/some people absolutely pick that activity up without an apparatus which does in fact currently and scientifically (for the most part) pick up peaks or spikes of energy, better known as the lie detector. Again, to prove a lie detector result negative or outsmart the machine, you'd have to control impulses. Clairvoyants/sensitives (i just don't like the word psychic) pick up on whatever these spikes consist of.

From what I've experienced, there is more that can also be picked up on. For the person lieing, they really do feel the exhaustion, the depression, the anxiety in keeping up something they know not to be true. I for arguement sake call that negative energy and the nausea comes for me anyway from picking up not only intention & motivation for a lie but that vacant place inside that manufactures the lie. The person feels sick to me. Most people don't lie to make themselves look badly, they usually lie to make themselves look better than they are - but there's exceptions for that too I suppose like people trying to present themselves as needing to be felt sorry for or scams having to do with needing money.

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Elleise
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Polygraphs measure physiological responses (blood pressure, pulse, body temp, respiration, breathing rhythms etc) and galvanic skin responses. These are responses of the skin and muscle tissue to external and internal stimuli, and are picked up by measuring the electrical resistance between 2 points.

As far as I'm aware lie detectors do not pick up 'negative energy' generated by lies.

You really need to put the entire conversation into perspective. I know I don't have the background for the technical terms for whatever the impulses are, however, that will never stop some people pick from picking these things up. It's all energy. Whether it's positive (literally) or negative, again, who knows? I haven't the means or interest in the scientific aspect of it. However, for argument sake I call the feelings negative. Reason being, it doesn't feel good.

Telepathy would be another topic of interest - how words, mind images get from one person to another, I haven't the foggiest, but have experienced that as well as my daughter and my husband in forms that I can witness and that's good enough for me.

It's a bit like discovering the earth isn't flat. Someone went out of their way to follow their instincts because of what they experienced at the time and eventually it was proven as so many things are in time. Telepathy, intuition, feelings will be proven and it will have to do with something in the brain. If my personal "boat" is going to take me in places that haven't been dedicated to science quite yet, I for one am not going to fight the current - that too takes way to much energy (or whatever it will be proven some day to take).

We can start a thread on proof. I always find it interesting (eye opening) for people in arguements to try and prove both oposing views wrong, if you're really interested in finding out things your perspective may not know.

Most of us have plenty of room to learn more than where the limits of our beliefs, experiences and interests have taken us.

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Elleise
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To take a conversation such as this one out of context and try to add scientific proof is pulling the subject off topic.

This is an interesting topic, Elleise, and I have been following it closely. When I sense a negative field around someone, I not only see it in their aura, but feel it when I touch them (ie: handshake or hug), which is like a warning, prickly sensation that puts me on guard. I do not feel an illness, only wariness.

But you're not picking up 'negative feelings' from some kind of electrical force, which is what you're implying, you're picking up on other physiological clues, such as body language.



Once again telepathy hasn't been scientifically accepted to actually exist. There are all manner of coincidences and interesting occurrences but nothing that can be scientifically replicated in a controlled environment.



Whether telepathy is proven to exist remains undecided at this point.

This is my problem with your thread: you're presenting subjective experiences as factual information. And I totally disagree with your statement that certain groups of people generate bad feelings or 'negative energy'. To say some groups of people cause you to become 'nauseated' when in their company is (in my opinion) an irresponsible statement for a forum editor, and a dangerously negative subject for a thread on a public forum.

Not when the information is being presented as fact.

What I see and feel are facts to me. They are not facts to anyone else unless they themselves see or feel them.

If you were in my body and could experience first hand what I feel, and my physiological reactions, then you could write it off as my merely picking up on another's body language.

Simply because conventional science doesn't currently have the technology to measure something like this, does not mean it doesn't exist. Simply because conventional science doesn't accept these types of experiences as plausible does not deny them as factual to the individual.

Scientific theories are made daily. If they tend to support or conform to conventional, accepted, "scientific" knowledge, no problem. They get tested, or may even get accepted based on their conformity. New theories, even those with supporting scientific evidence, which do not conform are subjected to what I call the "Galileo Test." The theory and it's author are subjected to all manner of "inquisitory" attacks.

While this is a necessary part of scientific method to test a theory, it seems more frequently taken to the extreme with non-conforming theories and evidence. There have been experiments following accepted scientific method conducted on clairvoyance issues, over several decades, by reputable organizations and institutions. The conclusions, statisical analysis, and reviews are mixed.

But then we're discussing an issue, pressing for only a portion of the population, and one surrounded by hype, pretenders, cultural aversions, etc. Not exactly an issue, when explored could improve the human condition overall, thus garnishing competitive grant funds.

I honestly feel the moderator's intention for this thread was to share experiences on this topic. When you experience something not within the accepted norm, it can be isolating and confusing. My own Mother has subjected my experiences to the "Galileo Test," or simply told me I was wrong.

For those with experiences outside the accepted norm, this forum provides descriptions, ideas, and personal interpretations. If my posts are worded in a way which implies fact, well, they are my personal facts. If someone's facts, experiences, interpretations, or opinions differ from mine, I would not dismiss them as incorrect.

If we follow scientific method, there are 3 options: Proven, Disproven, or Yet to be Proved. We're most definitely in "Yet to be Proved" territory here.