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I am going to, as soon as I'm able to raise money for the Education and Prevention of Suicide in his name and honor. He went to the Univ of Fl. to become a Lawyer but found a calling in Photography.I am going to make prints of his unbelievable photos and sell them to help raise money for this. It needs to come out of the Dark ages and people need to be aware that help for people is much more important than a Stimga they are afraid will be attached to that person.


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Raven, thank you for sharing such an unbelievably emotional trauma. I've spoken w/you before and each time I read this, it consumes me.

If nothing else, you are one Soul who can see, now with such clarity, that psychic/sensitive information we (all) of us pick up is of a world that does absolutely exist. That world existed well before man-made scenarios and trinkettes were around and you nailed as to why we recieve this information - to help. It is work of the Soul and connects each of us to the broader spectrum.

Thank you for sharing this smile

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"The Most Premonitions?" I would have to say anytime that I am cleaning my home; washing the dishes... when I appear to clear my mind from focus on the "here and now." I have never focused on the "process" itself, until now... as I would say that I continue to be an "Unwilling Participant" with Clairvoyance or Physic Abilities. It seems like the less I know, the better. I struggle with the constant need to "do something" about what I see or feel, and knowing how difficult it would be to try and explain to someone exactly what my mind appears to be able to do. Premonitions take place in the forms of: Waking Dreams or Visions; Feeling; or a sense of knowing. (The feelings happen by just being around someone.) I continue to still be nervous about "how this happens." Yet, terribly curious at the same time.

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Hi Carol welcome to the forum!

I know what you mean. You can block out your sensitivities. For awhile that's what I did. I remember it like it was yesterday too. The result for me would be like watching a 3-D, HD movie and halfway through it go to a flat black and white. That's litteraly what it felt like.

In addition to that I had to, unless I isolated myself, go along with an illusion, kazzillions of them when I was a part of other people's reality. That was a different type of pain. I'd say things that were litteral without thinking and I'd get uneasy looks or ansty body shifting. As my siter put it, "She's not as smooth at playing the 'game' as the rest of us." I started to realize how much of life energy is wasted pretending and numbing, just to spend it living in non-reality. Things would come through whether people spoke about it or not, painful things.

So, then I got angry and resentful with God, like this is so redundant. If I have to be like this why not place me where there are others, why me? There was simply nothing in it to know this stuff. No one wants to do anything about it, they're happy "not knowing" and conversations, lol (oh, my side hurts), like you can make idle chit chat when you know the person in front of you is abusing their child or an alcoholic driving a school bus... Blechhhhhor cheating on their husband or wife!!! I'd actually have flashes of dark seedy...well enough said, just ewwww.

I'm still working on blocking out things I pick up with people I'm close to. It's so very hard. I'll know someone is lying to me or what they have planned if they are trying to use me or someoen close to me, I'll know when they say words, what they precisely, really physically intend to do. I'll get upset, cry and it hasn't happend yet. I end up having to keep physical distance and they'll think I'm mad when that's not it. I'm just not my open self they once knew.

The plus of all of this is that I teach now and help people through crisis they actually want to deal with or prepare for, especially when they feel something coming but aren't quite ready to see. It took well over 15 years to actually turn it into a service. It's a happy medium and something I can do naturally. It takes years though for people to trust you. Word of mouth and this site has been a tremendous help. I am so appreciative of that smile

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Thank you - This is the first time I've had a "Healthy Cry" in years. I try to hid so much of "what I am" from everyone, inculding myself. When you see or feel "things", you don't seem to have a choice of what the picture is today --- it just happens. The good, the bad and the ugly. (I do not practice it. I guess I fear it a little.) I have a very difficult time with it, when I know things about my family. I have 3 teenagers and a wonderful husband. But, I do not want to know about their pasts and lifespans; their secret wants and desires; their private lives. It bothers me in two ways: One: it feels invasive. And then, I becomes too ashamed to say anything about it because it was "their private matter." And everyone has the right to privacy. Two: I can't do anything about what "may" happen. I believe that life is here to teach it's own lessons and to only aide when asked. But, my heart just dies when I know it is something that will happen and I cannot stop it, no matter how hard I try. Case-In-Point: I knew of my father's (wanting of an affair) "years before" it happend. But, I said nothing because my knoledge was invasive and I did not know if by saying something about it. It would cause things to move in that very direction wanting to be avoided. (My mother would have never believed me. And my father was honestly miserable in the marraige.) - Now, that this very thing did take place and my parents are divorcing. My guilt consumes me. I only "see and feel" things about the living. But, I get so frustrated because there is only so much I can do to help, prevent and aide others. And I get quite tired. Perhaps, I love people (in general) a little too much. Because my heart just breaks. *And I am a terrible lair. Knowing people's secrets makes it very difficult to "pretend" around them. It makes me feel quite two-faced. Any aide or advice... At this point, I admit I need it. And thank you in advance. As I do appear to be quite stuck.

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You've pretty much outlined, to the "T" what everyday life is for the natural "clairvoyant/psychic" the ones that refine their gifts and those who don't. They're kind of there whether you like them there or not.

For me, I went through the stages of not noticing anything unusual..you pretty much get to be protected from the horrors out there but for a few "visitors" as a child, to fear (random uncanniness/teens early 20's), 3 years of complacency (the flat black and white) and a decade or so of deciding to be pro-active, turning around and facing those fears and taking control of them, now counseling/teaching.

I have to say, I am happy to hear that the tears of cleansing have found their way to the surface for you smile. It's a start and oddly, a forgiveness of the self they end up needing to work through for feeling and seeing exactly what you've described.

I've "Finally" come up with some alternatives, actually they work better, I think, If your interested in mentoring. I've been working with a few different programs and found two that cut costs considerably - Skype and Paltalk.

Now that I have the programs, I just need to organize options. With skype and a webcam, there is real time conferance and video w/sound. If you have skype there is no charge for either party, Yey! You can also phone (pc - pc). I haven't tried that yet, but the pc to phone is clearer than my cell. Why i've dragged my feet going to voip, is beyond me...

I'll have more details in the newsletter going out here later tonight. With Paltalk, though, you have a private chat room w/video if you have a webcam. You'll still have the chatroom if you don't have a webcam.

I can't stress enough that there are a lot of different effective, healing, proactive, etc. ways to deal with clairvoyance in the family without practicing or strengthening yet without spending all of that energy, stiffling a good 60% if not greater of yourself and developed Soul purpose. You'd be suprised how much it affects your life as a whole to be able to work with and hold this aspect of yourself in the "light" where it's meant to be.

It's different, though, say from the psychic or clairvoyant who has "agoraphobia" if you will, due to public stimulation of crowds, groccery stores, etc.

Winter Development classes have ended. They finished this past Fri. So, I'll have some free time here over the next few weeks to get organized. I'll post general info in the forums to. It's just something to consider. Plus, we always have the forums.

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