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I came across this site and found it so funny! crazy

I do not like Sarah Palin very much but this is really a piece of work.

Enjoy.

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WoW thanks for sharing Frieda, And welcome to the forum!
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yw Rosie. xoxo.

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{sigh}

If we have an attractive woman running for office, the rumors start that she is an airhead and must have slept her way to the top (or at least that is what some people think).

If we have an unattractive woman running for office, then she must be a lesbian, butche-type of course (not the hot ones that the guys fantasie about).

Neither stereotype is true.

I wonder what would have happened if Hillary Clinton had gotten the Deomcratic nod? She was kind of seen as the cuckold on Bill. Would she have been protrayed as the B***h? Probably.

Women in charge have come a long way, but we still don't get the level of repect that ment do. frown


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Well, Tzipi Livni (Israel) and Angela Merkel (Germany) seem to be doing reasonably well. And they are not particularly attractive ...

Some hope perhaps for the ugly ducklings among us ?

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I agree. One thing that has really bothered me about Palin and people's response to her is that she isn't given credit where it is due. Even if you disagree with her position on issues, she still earned her way to where she is. Yet many criticisms I hear are based more on how "pretty" she is, or how well she spoke because she was a journalism major (said in a derogatory way) or because of her pageant experience (again, said in a derogatory way). She obviously did something right to get elected in Alaska and to have such a high approval rating. Just because people don't agree with her conservative values etc. doesn't mean she didn't earn her position. And why base her qualifications (or any female's qualifications) based on their looks? I'm sure if she was really ugly there would be nonstop talk about that as well. Why does one have to be ugly to be smart and respected? I feel sad for all the young girls growing up being made to think they are valued more for their looks than their brains and that they cannot have both.


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I can't agree with these assessments of Palin. I was actually excited when she was added to the ticket (well, excited might be an overstatement since I'm a dem, but worried and ambivalent because I want to support women candidates..especially breastfeeding moms!). But I can't imagine who is calling her well-spoken. I am just astonished by the lack of experience and depth everytime she opens her mouth. I'm embarrassed that anyone might think that she is representative of a successful American woman. I'm not really much of a Hillary fan either for very different reasons, but I certainly see a giant chasm between the two, regardless of position and party.


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Sarah Palin is very bright & held her own in the debate.Her physical attractiveness doesn't hurt, but should not be focused on.
She is a feisty woman not afraid to tell the voters where she stands. She is a 'quick-study' and I see her becoming a major contender LATER - she is not ready yet. I can see why she is going down the "aw shucks- I'm just a real soccer/hockey mom like you" road. I see the appeal. Not for me, however. I want my politcal leaders more intelligent and well-spoken" than me.

I respect John McCain for his past military service & suffering as a POW. Which is why I do not understand WHY he wants to continue a war - especially this absurd one. I honor & respect & thank the soldiers fighting - they do as they are told. I abhor loss of life on both 'sides'. As cold as this may sound: we Americans need our soldiers home NOW. Regardless of how many billions of dollars we waste in Irag, we can NOT change their beliefs & we can't "save' everybody, everywhere. I wish we could.All the billions of dollars wasted in Iraq could help us at home.
Iraq is a war with no possible winners. Period. The horrendous "DRAFT" in the VietNam war should have taught our leaders something.
It ALWAYS comes down to money. Stupid wars only harm/kill/maim our soldiers & the innocent peasants who have no idea what is happening or why. WHY? Answer: Wars generate money. FINAL ANSWER.
I admire McCain but he believes in war.
I admire Obama and want to believe all his promises. Yet I have doubts about his original financial backers & his past religeous affiliations. That has to have residual affects on his thinking.

So........here I am 2 days from Election & I'm still not sure who to vote for. Very sad.

There MUST be hundreds of qualified candidates that we will never know about because they aren't "owned" by lobbyists or 'special interest groups'.

In my humble opinion each party - Republican, Democrat, Independent, etc. should be placed on a stage simultaneously with no preparation or advisors. They should be given a set of questions - ALL the same. Like a college testing room - no talking,etc. Then their questions & answers should be shown on tv & in the press TWICE. You missed it? Find someone who recorded it. Then they could have ONE DEBATE to try to explain why they answered as they did.
Just think of all the billions of dollars that would NOT be wasted on the never-ending campaigns. No traveling/stomping to a million towns, no secret service agents we taxpayers pay for. The government should allot a certain amt. of money to each candidate - PERIOD. No 'fund-raisers' to encourage & influence the candidate.
I am not naive. I am realistic. If we ever want a real & honest leader, we need to get rid of all these b.s. influencers.
This is MY country. I demand a REAL CHOICE of my Pesident of the USA. Not trying to decide the lesser of the 2 evils.
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Hi, I am the author of the website The Palin Idolatry.

I discovered this thread when I saw the hits coming from the bellaonline.com forums showing up in my site stats.

Just to deflect a little bit the flow of rotten tomatoes that is sure to come my way, I would like to say that I am not your average Christian. I would rather describe myself as a sort of agnostic believer in God and this website I have set up about Sarah Palin is a spiritual experiment that I have decided to do in order to explore the meaning of the notion of idolatry (which we find so much in the Bible and, increasingly, in modern media) in connection with my own personal experience with Faith and the Church.

I think that feminine beauty has no particular importance (other than raw sexual attraction) at a purely natural human level. But I think it would be dishonest to deny that cultures, since the dawn of history, have given it a meaning that goes way beyond the simple enjoyment of something aesthetically pleasing. To simplify a lot, you have those who worship feminine beauty and you have those who loathe it because they consider it "idolatry". There is not much space in between.

The website above is an attempt to track these two trends as they unfold through history, including what they have become in our own media-saturated culture.

Of course, my account of this phenomenon is biased. I have my own position and I make no secret of it. I think that female beauty is idolatry and that idolatry is harmful. I believe it is harmful to women just as much as to men. Just give a look at Ishtar for a moment and you will realize that she was a goddess of terror and violence. This is the nasty reality which hides behind female beauty worship. Do women benefit from a climate of violence? Hardly. Just look at Rap-saturated ghetto culture. This is the clearest example in our age of what a society can become if it follows the pattern of female beauty worship to its logical end. It is barbarity.

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