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I am stunned that these Biden and Obama are being so transparent this late in the election. First Obama admits that his dream for the country is to turn it socialist. To take your money and spread it around to, "give those behind you a chance."

Now, Biden admits that we will see an international crisis like the Cuban Missle crisis within the first six months to test Obama. He calls it a "GENERATED crisis." Does this mean that Obama will "generate" this threat to show the world that he can do the job, or that the threat will come from an outside source?
In this article, Biden claims that their are five sources it could originate from. He also boasts about having more foreign policy experience than any other Senator, so I guess he would know.

I have never seen a candidate guarantee that America will be threatened if he is elected.

-whoisjohngalt

I do agree that the next few years we will be seeing some unsettling things and there are difficult times ahead - but, just from reading that article it sounds like either Biden has been taking lessons from a psychic or he is on something! Or, maybe they are going to set up something to make Obama look good, like a saviour. Of course, the way the media runs things now, you never know what to believe.

From what I heard they have all seen intelligence and perhaps he is getting what he said from what he saw. I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination. Obama has made it clear he wants to make nice with our enemies. He wants to weaken America so we are not seen as a bully and are on more equal terms with our enemies. Why wouldn't he be tested? He is being exalted as some kind of Savior, so it stands to reason that these foreign powers are going to want to knock him down a peg. And what better time to attack America than during a transition period? We're getting a new president, amidst a HUGE financial crisis.

The problem is that even with this type of warning, people still think he is the best solution for America. I'd like to hear reasoning and logic behind that. Granted, we don't know exactly how we are going to suffer in order to test him, but at this point, why should any of us suffer just to elect him as President if we can avoid it by electing someone else?

My other thought is, the dems feel they have this election locked up. Obama and Biden can say and do anything they want at this point and their supporters just take it all as gospel and believe it all to be good. Well, when the blinders come off and things don't happen fast enough to their liking, or we start having unintended consequences to changes... they (Obama and Biden) are going to want and NEED their follower's support. Perhaps to stave off an impeachment if things get THAT bad. I'm not sure what he could do that would qualify him to be impeached, but if they think things are going to be that bad and are willing to warn us before he is even officially elected, I don't even want to know.

John McCain has the experience to handle military crisis. Obama doesn't. For Biden to say this is kind of like him getting 'cold feet' IMHO.

<<And what better time to attack America than during a transition period? We're getting a new president, amidst a HUGE financial crisis>>

This will be the situation no matter who is elected.

I think it's shameful that no one is showing George W Bush the respect he deserves as leader of the free world. He was there through the crisis of 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and now during the credit/mortgage crisis and Wall Street meltdown. We are still fighting a war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He ran on a platform of compassionate conservatism and with the same friendly demeanor as Sarah Palin, but now everyone is dismissing him and distancing themselves from his administration.

This shows a terrible disrespect and failure of loyalty. When life was good everyone was a buddy to George W Bush and now he is taking all the blame.

It just doesn't seem right. Where is someone to say about George W. Bush, "he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions"?

I don't know why John McCain would trust his present supporters to stand by him in the same situation, especially when he intends to be a 'maverick.'

People, step up.

Slightly off-topic but I AM a newbie: Has anyone else seen the clip of Obama refusing to salute the American flag &/or recite the Pledge of Allegiance? The clip I saw was of him on stage with others & he was the only one w/o his hand over his heart & reciting with passion.
Yes, I am one of those still deciding who is the least offensive to me to vote for. Very sad.
Anyway, my Democrat friends say the clip was "invented". My Republican friends say it happened. Then I ask: Then WHY hasn't it been made a big deal? That symbolism IS a big deal to me.
Thank you.

McBeth, I believe the hand and flag issue was covered a long time ago in the media. Just do a search on it. There is plenty of information explaining the reasoning.

As for standing for and respecting Bush, I do. Unfortunately I hear way more negative stuff about him from people I know and I don't feel I know enough about the war issues to say anything in rebuttle. As for the financial crisis, I don't blame Bush, in fact, it has been shown that the causes of the crisis go waaay back. There are a lot of people to blame and both parties are responsible, imo. Unfortunately since Bush was in charge when this happened, it will always be seen as the Republican's and Bush's fault.

I think Biden's comments stem from the fact that Biden knows Obama is unqualifed to lead our country and our military. In fact he has even made this comment publicly. Well, if Biden knows Obama is unqualified then certainly the foreign leaders know he is unqualified. I believe they will also perceive him as weak. I'm sure Biden made this comment so that the American citizens won't be surprised when the attack occurs.

McCain is far more qualified to lead this country and our military. Foreign leaders would have good reason to fear and respect McCain.

Does anyone wonder why we haven't been attacked since 9/11? George Bush has kept our country safe. McCain has the capability to keep our country safe. Obama is not qualified to keep our country safe and thus Biden's comment.

Welcome to the BellaOnline's forums, Mcbeth607.

We had a very lengthy discussion about Obama and the National Anthem back when he was running against Hillary Clinton for the Democratic ticket.

You can find that discussion here: Obama & flag issue



This happens with almost every President. Things start running roughly towards the end of a President's term, then the next one comes in and takes office. I believe it was Carter's term that we had American prisoners in Iran. Carter was the one that actually negotiated for the safe return of our citizens, but eh release did not happen until after Reagan took office, so he is the one that got the credit for it.

Daddy Bush did a fantastic job during Desert Shield. His biggest problem was that the UN did not allow him to go ahead and go in to completely eliminate the terrorist cells when we were ahead. In my personal opinion, I think he should have gone ahead and pushed for it. We had all the right people in all the right positions at that time - and this war could have been ended. And I seriously doubt that the countries in the UN would have acutally turned their backs on us. But that was a very serious political gamble that he had to take.

Things started going down for him, so his popularity went down and Clinton got elected.

I truly believe that is Desert Shield had occured 6 months later, Bush would have been elected to another term - because his positive ratings would have still been high.

Bush Jr. just is not military leader that his father was. He also did not seem to have the knack for picking subordinates that his father and Reagan both shared (this was in my opinion Reagan's greatest strength).

But anytime we switch parties in the Presidential office, our gov't is weakened, at least temporarily. The first 6 months are a time of adjustment. It makes sense that anyone looking to take advantage of us would do so during this time.