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Yes, the reclaiming of the shire, tho I think frodo saw a kind of link to it in the film via Galadriels mirror, I missed the death of Saruman at the hands of wormtongue.(I think i spelled that wrong!)

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Didn't Saruman get stabbed / pushed by him in the movies? I thought he did ...?

Frodo did see the Shire getting burnt but I think it was supposed to be "one possible future" and never really happened in the movie timeline. So the hobbits there never really seemed to understand what the adventuring hobbits had gone through. Which I think is a real shame. In the book they are heroes to their home town - in the movie they're more like adventurers who went off and did some exotic thing that doesn't really matter to the locals.


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In the book, didn't Saruman and wormtongue run into the hobbits as they were traveling to the grey havens. It seems Merry offered them some tobacco? And Saruman was kind of a weeny-head about it?


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Yep, Told him "no thanks for the pity, and foretold frodos short future!" then walked off, but they offered wormtounge a chance and suruman said "you dont want him, you dont know what he did do you?" and told them and got wormtounge to go with him, and wormtounge went a short way and then cut his throat, then hobbit arrows killed wormtounge. smile


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Okay, so he did die by Wormtongue's hand, it was just in book three, rather than two.

Wormtongue was so wretched... I felt so sorry for him. I don't see how he could have lived with himself after his betrayal to Rohan.


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Yep, he was most definatly wretched.


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I missed old man willow too. tho he was wicked.LoL


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Well he was lusting after Eowyn and that's all he wanted, so he was willing to sacrifice a few things to get her ...


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I mean the huge wicked Tree, after they cross the Brandywine river, that catches Frodo and Sam ,where Tom Bombadil has to speak to the Tree and get the tree to relese them! LOL! smile
But you saying that Lisa, made me remember something else that the film portrayed, that was not in the book. Arwen was never in doubt of Aragons Faithfulness, and Aragon Never thought about going with Eowyn. I was annoyed over that bit! he WAS faithful to Arwen all they way through, it was Eowyn who fancied him. smile


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I never got the idea from the movie that Aragorn thought about going with Eowyn. I thought he made it clear that he only had eyes for Arwen. I thought it was just Eowyn that was hopeful.

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