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This is an article about Sex and the City and motherhood. Here is the link to it: article

I found this part fascinating:

'It may, after all, be her last chance and even the cynical Miranda cannot pass up the opportunity to experience motherhood, which according to Peggy Orenstein has "supplanted marriage as the source of romantic daydreams' for childless, unmarried women in their twenties and early to mid-thirties".'

Motherhood has supplanted marriage as the source of romantic daydreams. I find that really interesting, and very possible -- marriage is no longer the "til death do you part" life-long commitment it once was, and now motherhood is becoming held up to be some big state of bliss... I think I agree!

It's all a big rumour!


Simone de Beauvoir dismissed motherhood as, "...'a strange mixture of narcissism, altruism, idle daydreaming, sincerity, bad faith, devotion and cynicism."

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Thank you for posting this! I watched the entire series religiously, and loved it.

I thought it was weird that Miranda went the baby route, too. I think she fell into the "it's now or never" type thinking. She was getting older, and feared she might not get her baby, even though she wasn't sure she wanted one. But since she was already pregnant, it was easier to give it a go. I think they were really realistic about how difficult new motherhood is. She never seemed that into parenting, though, before or after she had Brady.

She didn't really like her MIL, and when her MIL became mentally challenged after she had a stroke, she agreed to have her move in. I can't imagine caring for someone that you don't even like on a really personal level, such as giving them a bath. I agree that Miranda's story took some unexpected and unbelievable turns. And she had to sacrifice so much.


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happytobechildfree, I loved Sex & the City also, and watched it religiously. I also thought it was odd that they had Miranda have a baby, etc., but I agree that it was nice and realistic to show that she was still not 100% into the whole parenting thing even after she had Brady, since she was not really into it before she got pregnant.

I have to wonder how the movie will turn out, and what turns their lives will take in that. I hope it's good and doesn't ruin the good note the series ended on.

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Miranda's pregnancy is so unconvincing because highly educated women are less likely to have children. I remember watching the abortion episode and amazed that a T.V. station finally has the guts to air such controversy. Men have expressed anger toward Sex and the City for portraying women in an unconventional light - they're usually the type of men who classify all women into a single stereotype, though. Acknowleding that we're all different confuses some men's limited mentality, which is challenged by the liberated perspective of the Sex and the City show.

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I find it significant that Carrie admits that she had an abortion, and - shock horror - does not regret it. Quite a feat for American TV, I think, to not only discuss hypothetical abortion which is rejected (the Miranda story) but also to have a likeable major character undergo it, and present it as a valid option which does not automatically reduce women to mentally scarred bundles of regret.


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I don't watch every episode but I DO LOVE Sex and the City when I DO watch it.
It is SUCH a liberating show!
I loved the episode about Carrie and her shoes and the woman who had kids.
I love how Miranda and her baby are shown realistically.
She loves him but she obviously finds it hard to juggle things e.g. work and baby. Baby comes first - as baby should in many situations but (a) she still has a life and (b)she has to make sacrifices - it's not all happy clappy.
I didn't know about the abortion thing but THANK you Carrie and SJP and the producers and writers for this!!!!
(Esp as I am in the same boat as her here!)
I also loved (being in my 30s, nearly mid 30s!) the episode about the girls in their 20s and the Sex in the City girls in their 30s and how although there are minuses to being in your 30s there are pluses and it can actually be a great decade! Seing as I'm going through this a little bit at the moment - missing my 20s a bit! Even though life is better now on the whole!




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Originally Posted By: Athena_Marina
I loved the episode about Carrie and her shoes and the woman who had kids.


I think it's called "A Woman's Right to Shoes." What a great play on words.

That show helped me so much. The women on that show are so liberated, and modern, and I've spent much of my life around women that just follow the script. It was such a gift to have an entire show dedicated to all of the questions I have been asking myself since I was a young age. The success of the show indicates that tons of other women related to the show, too. So I know that I am not alone.

I just mentioned this on another thread, but I think this board is like an extension of the stuff they talked about on that show: financial independence, valuing your friends, getting older, deciding whether to have a baby, dating older men, and the issues involved. I wish I knew more people that think like the gals on that show. There were a few things I found disappointing, like the fact that the girls drank as much as they did, and put themselves in risky situations. Statistically, if four women entertained that many partners, there would have been at least one attempted rape in the script. They showed them leaving with guys they knew for like ten minutes. And I hate to say it, but some people are impacted by what they see on tv.

I also thought the gals had really low self esteem at times, too, and settled for loser guys. They were so talented and beautiful, it was depressing to watch at times.

But overall, wonderful show! Couldn't get enough of it!


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I loved it too. We rented the series on DVD and watched it almost every night. I was so sad that it ended.

That is a good point though, I didn't agree with all of their decisions by any means. I agree it was depressing to watch them be in icky relationships.

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It's funny, I've only ever seen one episode of Sex and the City, and it was that shoe episode. Weird! I've been going back and forth about whether you watch it, but if so many people from this site like it then I'll probably give it ia try.


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I liked carroline in the city? i think that was the show... Sex in the City I have never watched they dont show it here or i have never seen it on.... I am a die hard L and O, SVU, and that type of show....

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