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Get the books by Lee Strobel "Case for.... "
They will give you lots of proveable ammunition to discuss with them. If anything you'll end up with more knowledge and show them how intelligent, intelligent design is.
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Parakeet
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I think that there is everyone goes on defence and becomes hyper-sensitive because most people have run in to a person who belittles them because of there beliefs.
I will share this story.
When I was in 8th grade my science teacher taught the big bang theory and anyone who did not believe that theory was true he made look and feel stupid. Well back then I was a true blue starched Christian. I would not back down. At first I used bible verus to prove intelegent design, then I tryed the big wig Theologist and all that. nothing worked and he even said to me infront of the class "So you just proved that you cant think for yourself!" I was mad I had put up with comments like that all year and held my temper but that was too far. so I poped back with something like "if two dust particals claided to make the univerus and everything in it where did the Dust come from? Sence when does Dirty pop up and turn into a univerus? and whats stoping the monkey from becomeing humans? My Grand parents were Human but I am starting to think may be You are a monkey!"
yeah I got detention with him for a month after that out burst in class. at the end of the year he said to me "Except for the one outburst you held your ground and stood up for it very well. I can respect that and I am sorry I did push you to hard but you learned more about both side then you would have other wise."
After I got out of highschool I learned that he was a christian and did not really believe in the big bang theory either. Go figure!
but I did learn from that. Name calling and belittleing the other or truing to proof that they have to believe or they will go to hell just makes it very hard for them to lesson and respect where you are comeing from and you cant hear anything they say either because your too busy being "right"! He was teaching you how to think and how to debate your viewpoint. Both very valuable lessons. I believe that everyone should know why they believe what they believe and not "because the bible says." Another great book is "my velvet elvis" if you want to understand the context of the bible and be entertained at the same time.
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Parakeet
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I ran across a text book:
The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief
by Dr. Francis S Collins, M.D., PH.D.
About this title: One of the worlds most famous scientists--the head of the Human Genome Project and a former atheist--interweaves science, logic, and intuition to present a most powerful argument for the existence of God.
Its like $10 at Alibris.com!
hint hint all I want for christmas is a few more books a few more books! I need to get this one.... it's on my list.... I'm off to wake my kids up... I mean what kind of kids sleep in on christmas morning..... the 8 & 5 year old that were too excited to fall asleep last night...
Last edited by Carennedy; 12/25/07 11:39 AM.
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Koala
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LOL they stayed up to late looking for Santa and then they were to sleepy this morning to care what Santa brought!
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Zebra
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Christians believe in Santa....!? Isn't that just a fairy tale....?
(sorry, guys, just kidding you...I couldn't resist it....!)
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Koala
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LOL!! Dont you know God sends us the Christmas Angel and the Angel tells our Sainta Parents to get us something for chirstmas because we have been good all year and we really need new socks and underwear?!
I had a Sunday School class and one of the little girls in the class asked me if Santa was God... So I answered her like that and the poor girl came back the sunday after chirstmas and asked "If I pray all year and be good all year do you think God will Send the Christmas Angel to tell Santa that I enough socks and underwear and that I really need a new book?"
I cracked up i was only 14 at the time and filling in for the real teacher who was real sick at the time. I saw her the other day and she asked me if i remembered telling her that and I said yes and she asked if I would mind telling her kids that now!! LOL
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Zebra
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It's weird that on the one hand we're trying to make children safey conscious and stranger aware.... then, at this one time of year, we tell them that this complete stranger is gonna come in the middle of the night, creep around the house and give them gifts, and sweeties....!
But I'm just being facetious... bit of tongue-in-cheek...
I hope everyone had a really warm and wonderful Chritmas.... *hugs* all round...!
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BellaOnline Editor Wolf
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I never wanted my children to believe in Santa Claus because it goes along the lines of telling them about Jesus. When they grow up and realized you lied about Santa, then may think you lied to them about Jesus and God as well.
Now that is not to say we didn't have fun with Santa and always give the kids a gift from "Santa", but they know that Santa is not real.
Before the kids open their presents, we read the Christmas story from the Bible and pray to God and thank Him for His wonderful gift.
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Zebra
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In my family,we would celebrate Christmas according to ritual symbolising the essence and True Meaning of 'Christ's Mass'.... We gave each other token presents, but focussed on the togetherness and Loving unity of the occasion. Conversely, when family birthdays came round, this was a time to celebrate that person's existence, and what a gift their life is to that of others. This is when we pushed the boat out for them in appreciation, and made their day special.
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Koala
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Koala
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my mom gave me gifts all the time we never had to have a reason to buy each other a gift. Birthdays and Christmas was always more about gifts that were a supraise, I had a birthday party with a few friends that my mom couldnt stand me to play with but I liked them so we had a party! and Christmas time ment we could go see family that I could not stand but wanted to see every year just the same... (yeah long story there...) the gifts were great but as a child I just enjoyed the friends and family more and I am still the same way...
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