BellaOnline Forums Relationships Married No Kids Sick of the racism!

I am sick of when I read some comments to articles on childfree tings (and I LOVE the articles and find them VERY helpful!) (and most of the comments!) But I am SICK of people writing basically "have a child because if white women don't have children or if you don't have children then the world will be overrun with Muslims and the world will turn to [censored]."
(1) Firstly, like I've said before,
not every white women marries a white man and vice versa. Like I said a million times here I am married to an Egyptian Muslim so if we had kids (which we won't) they would NOT be white. They would NOT be Christian. They would be half white and half Egyptian (North African.) They would have a Muslim father and half their grandparents would be Muslim so there is a chance they COULD choose that religion for themselves (but they might not.) Besides, although they would grow up learning and speaking English (as long as we continued to live in England or any country in which English was the main language, if we chose to move to an Arabic-speaking country they'd learn that first.) But even I would DEFINATELY want them to learn Arabic later on as it would be half of their culture, identity and heritage. (I bet they'd HATE THAT, GASP SHOCK HORROR!!)
Do you morons STILL want me to breed just cos I'm white?
Besides, I know of PLENTY of children who have only one Muslim parent and I know of plenty of children who are only half white (and half Black etc.)

PLUS free choice morons, there IS such a thing as white (or black) Muslim converts. For e.g. hubby and I are friends with a German-Egyptian couple and the German wife who is white and was raised with no religion has converted because she believes Islam is for her. So, there is NO guarantee 100% that white children will not grow up to be Muslims because of free choice.

I myself am no longer Christian, I am now into New thought with a dab of witchcraft (only GOOD magick!) even though I was raised Christian. I am also like I said married to a Muslim. None of which my parents probably thought would happen when they raised me Christian, like them. Point being kids don't always grow up to accept parents' beliefs. I know an ex Israeli Jew too, I work with him. He's Jewish in all ways except the religion, cos he no longer follows it at all, even though he was raised Jewish. There is a forum for ex Christians I go to but I have also seen one for ex Muslims. And I have heard of ex Atheists who were raised Atheist and when older became Christian and so on. Have kids so they'll be less Muslims? No guarantee.

(2) I find it incredibly racist and Islamaphobic to say such a thing that all white women should breed to outbreed the Muslims (racist cos most Muslims ARE non-whites.)

(3) Not all Muslims are terrorists, even though that seems to be the perspective from these low-lifes. I used to even think they all were myself, because of the media portrayl and because I'd never met a real Muslim in my whole life. Now that I have met some, befriended some, work with some and married one, I realise that most Muslims are NOT terrorists. Obviously some are but they are the minority.

and (4) STILL not a good enough reason to have kids!

Anyway just wanted to vent cos I'm SICK of this Islamaphobic, racist, xenaphobic bullshit and even the implication (in a way) white women should "stick to their own kind."

And P.S. yes some Muslims DO seem to be having a lot of kids but so too do some Christians! In fact my own brother who is turning into a bit of a Christian fundy and his wife don't believe in birth control, already have two kids and my mum and dad are hoping they don't have more cos they can't (brother and my sister in law) afford it and mum and dad have already had to help out financially!

mmm I dont think anyone thinks of it that way... I have a BIG problem with any woman would goes out and get pregnant just for the goverment help a paycheck and I have a really BIG problem with women who seek out non White men just so they can get more money out of the goverment.

I dont however have a problem with mixed races. if you love some one then marry them because you love them! not for the paycheck and welfair hand outs!

where I live there are kids going hungry and the mother cant or wont take care of the kids she has because she is to busy trying to make another one so she can get more money! she has brand new disigner cloths but her kids are wearing hand downs and going with out coats so she can get a new game plus the kids add sympathy to her story she tells anyone and everyone how hard she trys to be a good mother and how hard it is when the daddies dont help and she just cant understand why her life is so hard blah blah blah in the mean time she has everything she wants or needs and the kids suffer...but they do have the toys and stuff that makes them shut up and they have the run of the town because mom dont watch them or care where they are at....

I am Sorry if my post come off as Racist but the truth is as long as woman are paid to have kids and not to love care and raise the kids they will have more and more that suffer. and as long as they see these kids as a pay check lets face it if the kid is anything but WHITE the kid is worth more money to the mom!
and that is a fact in the good ol' USA!!!

but IF you love and marry or at lest cohibatate with the dad and you want kids I could care less what color creed eithic background or whatever whoever however!

the point is the goverment HAS to change the help the RESPONCIBLE PEOPLE!!! not just the babymakers looking for a handout!

notice that I didnt put that you have to marry or be married so I am not slaming the unwed mother who actualy love and raise there own children and can stand on there own feet or the mothers who work to provide for there family but still need help.
or the divored mothers with dead beat fathers! i will even apploud the fathers wed unwed and divoreced that take care of there kids and raise them with morals and eithic and PRIDE! So the only people I realy intend to slam is the babymakers and the goverment who refuses to change when the far care service is full of kid that no one wants and the child protective service is so understaffed because case like this is the NOROMAL not the exception!


oops I reread your post and I dont think I have made a remark about Islamic anything..... Sorry for my rant!

"I have a BIG problem with any woman would goes out and get pregnant just for the goverment help a paycheck and I have a really BIG problem with women who seek out non White men just so they can get more money out of the goverment."

EEK so do I!! Well over here in the UK it's the reverse! Because we are here on a Work Permit, not Residents yet (but hopefully soon!) doing any course costs much more for us, we are not eligible for any benefits - not that we want them, we have too much pride and prefer to work for a living! and I think the reason it's taken my husband so long to get regular work (which he's now had for two years) is because he's a foreigner with no UK qualification (even though he has years of experience and is honest and a hard worker.

I was shocked to read of women marrying or just co-habiting with non-white guys just to get money! (Must be a USA thing.) I mean, poor guys! They don't even love them for themselves? That's disgusting! These are probably the same people who have babies just to get benefits.
I really don't get that. I mean, I think if you are down and out and you need a benefit, fine. But to wear it as a badge of honor! It's something you should NOT be proud of! Have a benefit if you need it but as a GOAL?! What is WRONG with such people?!

It's like some people say to us get a council house. Some of the council houses are near drug dealers even. No, I don't WANT a flipping council house now! I want a house of our OWN that WE have saved for, not one handed out by the government that THEY decide what house and when to give it to us and the conditions!

Good For you!!! I think as a Country the USA is going to be short of pride when these kids that have so many half brothers and sisters and they dont know who the real dad is grow up and start living like they were raise we are going to be in a world of hurt! or they will grow up and think there is not a chance in hell I am gonna put my kids thourgh the hell I was put through and make so big changes!!! either way its going to be a hard row to hole! and it aint going to be pretty!!!

Last time I checked, we weren't exactly running low on white people. I don't understand why there are people worried about this. That sounds bad, like I'm saying good, there are enough white people right now. What I mean is, I don't know why people would even be provoked to make statements like "if you don't have kids, the Muslims will rule the world!"

Most of the stuff that I've read is bemoaning the fact that it's not a lack of white women per se, but it's the educated and high earning white women - the ones they "want" to breed because they can afford kids, and supposedly have good genetics to pass on - who aren't having them. Maybe because they've worked out that motherhood is really NOT the be all and end all that society would have us believe (ta-da!), and they've chosen to say NO.

And besides, since when did the colour of your skin have anything to do with whether you want children, or whether you'd be a good parent? Please. I don't care how many black, white or green people choose to have kids, as long as they look after them properly.

And Athena, you're totally right. 99.999% of people in the world are no different to you and me. It doens't matter what colour their skin is. And I seem to remember through history, that the Christians have a bit to answer for too.

That's a good point. I've had this argument thrown my way before, and the person making the argument asked me if I was sure I don't want kids. I said yes, and he appeared miffed. Sorry, but it's my life. I don't tell anyone else what to do with theirs. And, if the state of the world is so dismal, why would I want to bring kids into it?

Agreed that white + white does not = productive member of society. I can't believe people think it does. I know so many screwed up white people that came from decent families. Their parents did all the right things, and they still ended up with major issues. One guy I know ended up going to jail for selling pot while he was in college. He came from a middle class family, and had a WONDERFUL mother.

Also agreed that raising your kids in a certain faith does not mean they will ultimately adopt that faith. My Mom raised all three of us Catholic and none of us practice the faith. And we are completely turned off by it. She also raised all of us with pretty much the same values, but was a little lenient on the third. We all turned out different, and two of us are functional and productive while the other is a train wreck. Go figure!

Also agreed that the Christians have a lot to answer for. People that don't know a lot about history are self righteous that Christianity is the be all end all and that other religions are evil. But they don't know the history of their own churches, and about the transgressions that have taken place.

Also, I hate to state the obvious, but it's highly improbable that Jesus was white! So the Christians really need to get over themselves! And some of the black people I know take their Christian faith so much more seriously than the Catholics I grew up with.

you know this really makes me mad. I am 18 and was very suprised to find that I was pregnant, i never planned it, and just to let yall know I am on government assistance, but if I wasn't when I have my daughter in a matter of days, I wouldn't be able to take her to the doctor. but the other thing about this that makes me mad is my child is of mixed race and in no way did I choose that so that I would get assistance. I just know that some people need help at times and if you have no one to help what are you supposed to do? where do you turn? I don't have a high school diploma, I have no family, and The father wants nothing to do with the baby. so what do you suggest?

Political correctness be damned. God almighty, Whitnie. Since when was this ALL ABOUT YOU?? Did Athena mention your name? Because if so, the rest of us must have missed it.

if it makes you mad, then just leave, OK!! You're about to be a mother, and you don't agree with any of this, so just turn on your ignore function so you can't hear what the nasty childfree people are saying, if it bothers you so much!

Sorry Whintie sweet heart but I think you are one of the few how will love and care for your child! you deserve the help and so does your daughter. its the ones that think of there babys as a paycheck the kids suffer so the mom can have everything she needs. the kids dont get any help at all! and the free medical care is used as a I-dont-have-to-work-my-kids-sick and a babysitter. the kids not sick but they take them to the er and leave them for however long tell the nurse they have to go to work and call them if something happens but they tturn there phone off and leave to go party....

also they use the foodstamps to buy alchohal and junk food.
then they get grats and scholorships to go to college but they sign up for the classes then drop them but they have the extra cash the goverment through at them....no strings attached!

you see this is bad for you and your baby because it drains the resources avalible to help you when and if you or your baby needs it!at some point in time you baby will get sick and you will go to the er. the people working the er are fed up with being the babysitters to no good mother and there is NOTHING Wrong with the kid AT ALL so here you come in with sick baby and free medical care your young and they will naturealy assume that nothing is wrong you just want out of work sympathy or a babysetter. so you wait longer, get poor treatment and they over look something because after you baby is admiter they want her out as fast as possible so they are not stuck babysetting her all day.
plus at some point in time they the taxes wont be able to go anyhigher with out people rebeling and the funds will run out so vital resources will run out. these people are the ones who dont help the econome at all they dont pay taxes or social sercurity, they are leeches that drain the life out of this country!

so sorry honey but that aint you!!! no matter what color creead or background you are. you plan to care for your child and that means sacraficing things for your self when you have to make a choice between her health and well being and your happiness. I think you will do the right thing. go get you GED and go to scool and learn a trade that pays well so you both have health insurince and you can make it on your own. I dont think you goal in life is to sit on you butt and teach our daughter how to me a slut or a cauch poptato!

see the difference?