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Not at all! I appreciate your honesty! Have to smile though, cause I'm sitting across the world where we don't have law suits that easily, should someone else have got up to discipline that child! (In South Africa, there is a saying from the indigent XHOSA population that says: IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD)
Pity that a lot of communities are losing that today. Check out some more reading material on early NEUROLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT and the resultant etiology it plays in disorders like ADHD... particularly a guy called JAMES MASTERSON! Unbelievable!
Glad to be online talking or rather preaching to the converted!
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Boni

Oh my goodness! That is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE! Poor little old lady. You did the right thing, Skeeter. I would have done the same. And like Ingilbert mentioned...why couldn't he take both kids in to see the doctor? That is how my mom or dad would have done it. And, yes, it is the father's fault for not teaching his child manners and for not caring how the child behaved. If you aren't going to take the time to teach your child how to act or spend time with them to help them with their problem areas, then why have children in the first place? That is what parenting is all about...spending time with the child, being a positive influence, teaching it good behavior, etc. Parenting is really difficult and alot of responsibility if it is done right.

I understand the idea of taking both kids to see the Doctor, but that really (unless the kid is an angel) lowers the standard of healthcare that is given. Appointments are so limited in their length that any time spent with even mild distractions (mom/dad having to care for second child)

Not to mention that with unruly children (multiple being worse) children not under strict control in a hospital are a MAJOR safety risk to those around them. We have newborns, infirms, patients on contact precautions, needles, drugs, germs, etc. This is not the place for uncontrolled children..which is why I have always been a supporter of FREE in house daycare facilities during booked appointments.

Skeeter

Our friend wants to buy a pedigree puppy so had to attend an interview with the breeder - she wanted to determine whether our friend would make a responsible owner and could provide a good home.
I think if people had to go through the same process before having kids - lots would fail.
I've said it before - we are all a product of our parents - our childhood experiences become part of us....
Parents that "give in" to or "make excuses" for their kids all the time or try to "befriend" them are creating monsters....kids need boundaries and the parents are supposed to set them.
My parents were strict but fair - we knew our behaviour had consequences from an early age.
My brother-in-law gave away teaching two years ago - so tired of the disrespect - when a 10 year old kicked him, he decided to call it a day. The greatest disappointment - the parents stood up for their son and made excuses for his behaviour....not doing the kid any favours in the long run. Are his parents happy to make excuses to the police in a few years?

Skeeter, I hope that father's commander gives him the punishment he deserves. I grew up in the military, and my father would never have allowed me to risk his rank that way. The next person that kid slaps, may very well slap him back.

Skeeter, I applaud you, your actions AND your restraint. I don't know how I would have been able to stand seeing a little blighter like that abusing an old lady.

I am glad you took the actions you did, the police need to be involved apparently since the Father was a brain donor. Some people shouldn't breed. You can always hope that this will be a wake up call for the Family.

Of course its the parents but that doesn't make the little blighter any easier to deal with.

All I can say for little s***s like that ... it's good to know that there's a bigger and nastier kid out there somewhere that will eventually give him what he deserves. If any kid walked up and did that to me, I'd have to restrain myself from smacking him senseless, but I sure as hell would freak on him enough to give him nightmares for weeks. Shame that poor old lady didn't have a walker she could have run him over with.

His father's parenting skills are unbelievable. But talk about making a rod for your own back - by the time he's 13 he'll be uncontrollable. A military man really should know better.

That reminds me of one of the episodes of Nanny 911 I saw part of - the father was a marine and the mother was a professional nanny before she got pregnant. And they needed nanny's help!! What hope is there for the rest of us???

I think its sad and irresponsible when parents just say He has ADD and use that as an excuse for having a child that does not behave well. If your kid is THAT out of control AND you have a reliable diagnoses that says so, then who in their right mind would take a kid like that to the ER and leave him sitting alone?

Deborah, you're so right! People who think of getting a pure breed pet consider the question of raising "kids" (dog/cat kids ARE kids!!) even more than many blind breeders. *sigh* ...

Oh, there are a lot of people who believe that in the US, too. Except that the village is expected to do whatever the parent says, and is only allowed to intervene if the parent says it's okay. i.e. you can watch my child while I go shopping, but you aren't allowed to discipline.