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Modern Woman #323019 06/18/07 01:48 AM
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She says it so beautifully. I wish Joan were here at this moment to elaborate and teach us. smile

I know that opportunities do exist in problems. People find advantages in problems all the time. Take Post-Its for example. I understand that the inventor was trying to develop a super strong glue, but the glue he came up with was as you have seen on the restickable notes. I heard somewhere that when it didn't work for what he wanted, that he started using it around the office.

I would like, one day, to take each wound i feel i still have, and find ways to transform them into good and advantage. I really believe this is possible, in theory, anyway. I just don't understand yet how people do it. Any suggestions?

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Perhaps i need to offer more specific examples...

How might i find advantage in having nightmares and having irregular sleep?

How might i find advantage in being on my own? (without family)

...those might be tough. Perhaps i can find easier ones...

How might i find advantage in growing older?

How might i find advantage in ... in... anything?

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Originally Posted By: hollyelise
She says it so beautifully. I wish Joan were here at this moment to elaborate and teach us. smile

I know that opportunities do exist in problems. People find advantages in problems all the time. Take Post-Its for example. I understand that the inventor was trying to develop a super strong glue, but the glue he came up with was as you have seen on the restickable notes. I heard somewhere that when it didn't work for what he wanted, that he started using it around the office.

I would like, one day, to take each wound i feel i still have, and find ways to transform them into good and advantage. I really believe this is possible, in theory, anyway. I just don't understand yet how people do it. Any suggestions?


Penicillin was also found that way. But these are accidental opportunities. I think Joan is saying something different.

Such as- After my abuse, I learned that all human beings are not good. Before that I never thought about that.

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And yet, she mentioned opportunities.

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Perhaps i need to offer more specific examples...

How might i find advantage in having nightmares and having irregular sleep?

No advantage in nightmares. But they are indications of your insecurity. They tell you that please begin feeling secure.

How might i find advantage in being on my own? (without family)

You become independent. You learn to be happy alone. You also realize the value of companionship.

...those might be tough. Perhaps i can find easier ones...

How might i find advantage in growing older?
You are becoming wiser.

How might i find advantage in ... in... anything?

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Originally Posted By: cdmohatta
Originally Posted By: Alexandra
Originally Posted By: cdmohatta

Sometimes, we need to think of things that give us no results.
That is healthy in a way.


Interesting....

Would you please clarify this for me, and explain to me why in your view this is 'healthy'?
Thank you.


Most of our self talk leads us no where. But that is good to keep our mind busy.
Why did you ask?
you knew the answer.


Thank you for coming back to clarify, CDM, and no, I didn't know the answer, but I needed clarification, because I did not wish to jump to assumptions or conclusions.

Keeping your mind busy with self-talk can be constructive at times, providing the thoughts are deliberate, positive and focussed.
However, permitting thoughts to come and go at random, without any attention or control, is not constructive and does not always generate a positive result.
The more you let your mind wander, the more it is apt to become uncontrollable.
I know from experience that those coming to Meditation sessions I conduct, who have themselves experienced - or are experiencing - periods of acute, chronic or clinical depression, have actually benefitted enormously from meditation, and studiously making efforts to not only control their personal thought patterns, but in some cases, to eliminate them altogether, by stilling the mind.
One man who was diagnosed with a bi-polar condition in his teens (they called it manic depression then) has managed to reduce his medication to such an extent that he expects to be fully free of it within a year. He is 44, and has taken medication since he was 17.
He puts this down entirely to the disciplines of mediation and Tai Chi.

I would add most emphatically that I have had absolutely nothing to do with this aspect of his treatment, and have had no influence or opinion on his medication. This process has been entirely directed and governed by him and his doctor. I would never under any circumstances advise anyone on any medication they are being prescribed.

Just to make that quite clear!! laugh

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Meditation is the greatest boon we have. I agree.

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Whilst I have been a follower of Buddhism for 16 years or so, and have devoted myself to studying and to learning more and more about it, I would say, unquestionably and irrefutably that for me, the single greatest path to permitting me insight into my Mind, my emotions, my attachments and my own suffering, has been the one I have walked on in meditation.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that without Meditation, much of my learning would be futile.
It wpuld be like being given a prescription by a doctor, but then only reading the instructions on the packet.

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Well,

I'm reviving this old post for a couple of reasons. We were having some good discussion here, and, i haven't been feeling optimistic lately and i want to improve my attitudes. Perhaps some others are feeling this way, too.

Where do you start when you find yourself feeling discouraged?

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Visualize that you are achieving your goals.

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