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hi

in hinduism its believed tht all that we get and experience now are s a result of our past bith karmas.
this is the point i agreed with linda when she wrote in another post-
all that happens to us is because of us.

and one person told me its the law of god that we suffer now for our past deeds-good or bad.

would like to know what pr how its looked at in other faiths.
thanx for ur time.
engee

For me, the jury is still out regarding reincarnation, but what you say about past karma makes sense in that light.

If karma and what happens in our lives now is indeed the result of past lives, and reincarnation of the whole person is a fact, then I'd agree that what happens in our present lives may be due to past actions.

How else could a baby or a preschool child be responsible for being sexually abused to such an extent that it causes them to dissociate, or even to die? That could not possibly happen because of the child, or because she/he deserved it! I can think of scores of other types of abuse that could not possibly be the responsibility of the victim, UNLESS they are experiencing what they themselves did in a previous life.

However, I am not convinced that reincarnation involves the rebirth of the person who lived before.

I tend more to believe that each person is responsible for their OWN actions, and not someone elses. Everyone has a choice regarding wrong behaviour. As adults, we can attract the wrong doing of others by contributing to it. (the 'takes two to tango' approach) but where children are concerned, I do not believe they are in any way responsible. The excuse made by some child molesters that 'she was very seductive' when 'she' was less than 7 years old, doesn't wash with me. Also, are animals who are abused responsible for what is done to them?

Either the concept of our responsibility in what happens to us is true for all, or it is in error. What did the 18 month old baby do that made it responsible for being raped, butchered and then tossed onto a garage roof?

So, does it all come down to karma from a past life? I don't know. Perhaps it is a good excuse though for wrong doing, or a way of explaining it away when the truth about wickedness in our world becomes too horrid to think about.

Ann.

Ann,

You have a lovely way of writing. Why not begin writing on some subjects and submitting the articles in ezines? Pl. think about that. Write on Dogs and more.

Coming back, our present Karma will also pay us soon in this birth and in the next.

And out of all the karms, there are four that are never excused.
One of them is ingratitude. That is never excused.

The rest three I do not remember right now.
Never have ingratitude for anybody who did good for you or you will pay for it very heavily says Bhagvat Geeta.

Thankyou for ur response Ann.


I have read that hypocrites will suffer a lot too!!!

Nisha,

I have had enough of your taunts. you know very well that i am of your mother's age. you yourself told me that. I am surprised and shocked with your behavior. If I was that bad, why did you ask your husband Ganesh to get the seven books as gifr from me? I had to collect them with some effort. a man spent one day to get them. You know that.

If you keep asking a question everyday in your mails and if I tell you that I can not answer these questions because for understanding the answers you have to first do some spiritual pracise, why did you call that as an insult and then began taunting me on the forum? I showed you the right path. I told you to be patient and practice. One does not learn overnight. I also told you that most of the questions you are asking can not be answered. They have to be understood. They have to be experienced. But you called that as insult? I was amazed and shocked.

What are your life goals? I had asked you once. You never responded to that. Why? Is your life goal to know more about me? How does that help you? Why do you not care more for your family?

I have come to this forum for a purpose. That is to learn, discuss and try my bit if I can help anyone. I helped you for the same reason. But instead of acknowleding that, you have started a vicious campaign. Why?

Pl. let me be at peace on this forum. I have all your mails and personal messages saved. If anytime you call me hypocrite, or say that I insulted you,I will make them open. Let the forum members then judge who insulted who.

You are my daughters age. You have a small child. You suffer from depression. For you, the objective should be to take care of yourself. It is the first time, I am becoming personal on this forum. Please I pray, let me be at peace. please allow me to talk to other forum members at peace. Please do not bring me to a state where I have to reveal things I never want. Please leave me at peace.

all the forum members will think that I am a immature person because of what you are doing. Please do not do that.

Sentences of Anndidetal are reasonable and acceptable for me.

I read some real story about reincarnation or rebirth and also some one described his experience on it during hypnotism, so I don't want to deny it but this philosophy behind it (Past birth deeds/Karma and present life), is somewhat hard for me. I guess this thinking lead us to submitting ourselves to circumstances.

You are right about that. Some people blame everything on their past karma. Babak, how sweet to share thoughts with someone from Iran. Internet is great.

CDM,
Now that you have done the greatesst thing in revaling oneself here in this forum, let me introduce myself.
tHIS IS ganesh, Nisha's Husband. All this while there wasent any need for my presence here. But now I do. Each and every mail on this is been shred by both of us and I very well know what you had written in the previous mail, which makes me eligible to respond and to add to that you had mentioned my name!.At a certain degree of your tunting, I had asked Nisha to avoid your mails, still you wanted her to reply to your mail and fight back. This time I thought I will put a few words to end it. When I spoke to u (only once), I had a feeling that you are following spirituality, and on the right trck. But sorry to say that what I had been thinking might be wrong (Based on your posts). I am one fellow who doesent get things free of cost. While you had insisted that you would give the books for free, I had to take it without choice. What you had said was quote "Its good to do favours one in a while". Now that this whole favour had turned in to a burden. pLease send me you adress, so that I can pay back, without any problms. That regarding the books.
Now comming to the posts, Mr. CD, please read your posts carefully once more. There is a distinct feeling of criticisms and the manner of your writting makes others feel inferior.Cd we are all god's beings. There is no need to show superiority towards anyone. We all try and share our wisdom, in the best manner as possible. But if you are insulting people, looking down at people, then the whole purpose of this forum is lost.
If I remember right, your whole face changed when Nisha has some qustions about your guru. Its very natural to have questions. And it is yourself to help her to give the best and the satisfying answer, rather than to taunt her in all the posts that she has put (alias Lordsaveme in news nd politics). In short, it is you who is taunting her in this forum. IF YOU CAN READ YOUR MAILS ONCE MORE, SHE HAD ALSO APOLOGIZED TO YOU,which you called as ingratitude.
CD, we havent asked you for anything, You were the one to aproach us to tell us about your Guru. While she had all the manners not to reveal who you are, U have done it inspite of all the tauntings.
Cd I am not a man of your age, but I think I have enough wisdom to tell you, not to be so harsh and rude, in what you write, and do not impose anything on anyone, which they may not be able to take!
Noe that alls said and done, we forgive and forget, what you had written.
By the way, she no longer suffering from depression. And I dont want her to start suffering anymore, because of your mails. So she is quitting this forum.

All the best and May God bless you.

Ganesh

CD and Engee,

This forum is not a good place to air your personal differences. You should keep it in private.

As far as the posts are concerned about past life karmas, please allow me to give a Christian perspective on it. I know no one will agree with me and I may even receive some heat for it but I have to say it.

As a Christian, we are taught about generational curses. We suffer for sins created by our ancestors and our children will suffer for sins that we have committed. I learned this in a healing and deliverance seminar.

We have to end the curses by rebuking hem in the name of Jesus and refrain from committing sins and also praying for God to forgive us for any sins that we have committed in that day.

Jesus took our sins and diseases and put them on the cross with Him and all we have to do is acknowledge that and then rebuke and repent of the sins and diseases.

There was a woman whose body was riddled with cancer and she was given about two months to live. She was prayed for and laid hands on in prayer and she started to feel better. Her next trip to the doctor's office, the doctor told her that the cancer was completely gone from her body. I mean her cancer was so bad that she couldn't walk and needed an oxygen tank with her. Now she can walk and breathe on her own and the cancer is still gone from her body.

There was another young woman who had cancer and my wife was taking her back and forth to the doctor and after she was prayed over a few times, the cancer was gone from her body as well.

None of them were smokers and they have lived a relatively clean life and we believe it was generational curses that brings stuff like that on.

I know most of you are going to think that it is all hogwash but there is a book called "A More Excellent Way" by Pastor Henry Wright and he pastors a small church in Georgia and his book is full of testimonies of people being healed by reading his book and doing what it says. There is all kinds of healing going on in his church. If you Google his name you will prolly find out a lot more information. His book lists all sorts of dieases and sicknesses and why we get them. It is a very interesting read.

Anyway, I just wanted to give a Christian perspective on what you call "past life karma". I hope I didn't offend anyone because that was not my intention.

Follow this link to read some testimonies from the book I mentioned and judge for yourself.

A More Excellent Way by Pastor Henry Wright.

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