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There is a lot of bad history out there. Xtains throughout the past have tried to rewrite events in order to glorify god belief. Since the church controlled so much, and books were rare, nonbelievers were few and religion was the fabric of society. Atheism was a young concept. Deism was the closest acceptable way to separate a god from everyday life. Regardless of their personalities the forefathers achieved a great thing - the first largely secular republic in the western world. Today, me and others that think as I do can live without fear of being tortured or burned to death in the name of religion. There is more work to do.

I think God won�t harm you, cause it�s so kind!
I�m not sure but think God if exist must be more educated and intelligent than us hence it�s not its issue to punished people and think about such inhumanity.


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Not sure what Hitler has to do with this discussion about the founding fathers or deism.... And I don't think you have to have someone well known or historically important believe the same as you. I never even suggested as much. The only reason I mentioned it in the first place was just as an interesting tidbit of information that the original poster on Deism might want to look into if interested. I wasn't trying to get anyone's knickers in a twist.

My statement has nothing to do with a god, but about the fact that the US was founded as a free country where anyone can believe and think as they please without persecution. The same cannot be said about Iran, I'm afraid. We choose to use our tongues in hopes to achive social harmony - not cut them out when they don't fit with the status quo.

In America, you may have an arguement with someone, but you will not be imprisioned, tortured or put to death for expressing your viewpoints.

I think I came off more combative than I meant to. Nothing twisting here. I just always ask something like that when people say something along those lines because I don't understand the purpose of saying it if not for the support it brings (support I think it not needed).

Aredant
You right, my sentences weren�t appropriate about your speech, pardon for my fault. I just wanted to tell my opinion by using your sentence with sense of humor, apologize anyway.


In Iran is nearly the same if you account as a Muslim (Shiite) and don�t make a documentary statement.


I think you are right about USA, it�s your country and surely you know it better. Yes we haven�t same situation in our countries (unfortunately) but I guess in this forum have same freedom. Seems I lost the Quo of this thread again.

Theism, Deism, Raely or any sources that we called as God or higher entity.
I�m not sure who create us and the world or its reason. If this intelligence exists even in another planet (Rael), it/they has/have to be more knowledge than us (I think), so when these religions (I more know about Islam and less others but guess topics are the same) aren�t comply or justify with our brain, hence how could issue by it/them?

Many people tell that �oh at least God exist, we must believe that some one created us�.
Well maybe they are right but who is it? And what it wanted from us? Is it vital I praise some one, who don�t know it or is it really a necessity?

Babak, that is a decision you must make for yourself, but do not follow blindly simply because it is in a book, or because others say it is so....

I follow no God, and do not believe in a Creator or Deity.
I read the Message of Jesus Christ, because whoever he was, whatever he did, his words and actions were wise, and apply as much today as they did then....But I do not worship him as a saviour....

Everything I hear and see, I consider, weigh up, think about and cogitate on...
I take nothing at face value - blindly, without research.
Once I am satisfied, one way or the other, then, I begin my walk again....

I see where you're coming from. Anything that makes me re-examine my beliefs in things and do a little research in the process is always a good thing though ... so thanks!

Alexandra
You are right; I have to discover it myself. Beside I�m somewhat blind perhaps because darkness here or maybe my eyes are weak to see around and need glasses. Yes so far I couldn�t reach to an exact point about that. What�s your opinion is it possible to reach?
Maybe some books or collecting other opinions and experiences were useful as a light in darkness.
I think human have wanted anxiously to know his/her future, isn�t important we know what will happen after die? I guess base of religion is about this. God and life after dead are stick to each other I guess, although I love to separate them.

In this world we have numerous Idea and believes I think, yes as you mentioned


�Erich von Daniken�, Raely, UFO, Shamanism, Buddhism and so on.
Last year I have been in Lebanon, in there informed me a bit about "Darouzy" religion that is mixed of Islam and Hinduism! They believe that after die people will start new life in the earth! They had many observations and experiences about that. It�s nice idea I think and I guess you know about it.