wow, you guys have been busy. i finished my nieces poncho and now am working on making ornaments. a made one last night with size 10 thread and made it like a snowflake, then put it over a satin ball and used pin s and pearls and beads and sequins to put it together, turned out pretty good, hubby is like oh i can take those and give them for gifts at work, like i don't have enough to make for the fanily!!!ROTFL oh well, they are quick and easy, and really pretty. talk with you soon. merwyn