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#277533 10/25/06 01:52 PM
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Do people with kids have websites that talk about people without kids?

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#277534 10/25/06 02:17 PM
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I have no idea, but I suppose they do. You might want to do a search on babycentre.com (I know this site because a former friend obsessed with offspring was registered there). You could search for mommy blogs too.

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I know there are lots of sites for moms (I don't hang out on them) but I wonder if they spend time complaining about people with no kids and calling them names?

I personally like the "breeder" (neutral and obvious) name although depending on how it's used it can come off a little Stephen Kingish. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Couldn't you just see a Stephen King movie about a town divided into breeders and CF?

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I know that the gay community refers to heterosexuals as "breeders" and I'm not offended. As someone said on another board, often a minority of people use their own termonology to designate people that are different from them and realities that don't apply to them.

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We really don't refer to hets as breeders. When we use the word, it is meant in a derogatory way. We usually say, straights or straight people. Some straight people would not mind hearing breeder, I suppose, but I don't hear it in the lesbian community. Maybe with the guys, dunno.


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I don't know, I'm just saying what I read on other forums and websites.

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We really don't refer to hets as breeders. When we use the word, it is meant in a derogatory way. We usually say, straights or straight people. Some straight people would not mind hearing breeder, I suppose, but I don't hear it in the lesbian community. Maybe with the guys, dunno.


It certainly makes less and less sense for gay men and lesbians to use the term "breeder" to refer to heterosexuals (in a derogatory way or otherwise), given the "gaybee boom" that's going on!

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#277541 10/25/06 06:17 PM
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"Do people with kids have websites that talk about people without kids?"

I have no clue...the websites I visit are limited in scope and number due to my lack of time available to browse the internet.

I think I understand what you're trying to say, Moe, and here's something that may help shed light on the situation. Many of the childfree community are harrased to no end "in real life" (in person, as opposed to over the internet) based on their decision to not have kids. Many people here have been harassed about this by family, friends, acquaintances, neighbors, coworkers, students, people at church, strangers on the street...the list goes on. So, many childfree individuals have a lot of pent up anger, and they vent it here, where they know there are others of like mind around. Many childfree have a difficult time venting anger anywhere else, as others close to us or overhearing what we say may offer up more harassment about our choice.

When most of us call a parent a name, it is because they have been a bad parent, and when they call a child a name, it is because they have been a bad child. It is the same as in the general population...others may not use the term "breeder" or "moo" or what-have-you, but I'm certain you have heard people say "what a terrible parent" or "so-and-so should not have had kids" or some such thing. Most of us know that all people are different, and that there are some very good parents out there -- what we may fail to get across in our posts is that when we call a name, those good parents are excluded from that group.

I am not defending anyone's actions, be they childfree, parents or people who are undecided; one of the reasons I am here is to promote understanding so that we can all get along and learn from each other.

In the interest of harmony between people, and avoiding misunderstandings, I try to avoid calling names and be as plain and straightforward as possible. If I mean bad parent, I will say bad parent. Or ideally, I will describe the action or attitude that I don't like, and be neutral about the person. We all have bad days and we all make mistakes, but that doesn't make us bad people.

Now, given, that all goes down the tubes when we are upset...we all use harsh words when we're upset...and the anonymity of the internet makes it so much easier. But be forgiving of these things, everyone...we all say things we don't mean when we're mad, or hurting, or when someone has hurt our feelings or offended us.

So it comes full circle...perhaps on message boards for parents, people write about people who have made them mad, hurt their feelings, or offended them. They might be childfree, they might be other parents, they might be little green men from mars. But that's just human nature...everybody has to vent sometimes.

That makes us all more similar than different, I think, even with our hugely different lifestyles.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance on this matter. I would so love it if we all got along and respected one anothers' point of view. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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That was excellent xantres. Thank you. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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