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#27199 10/01/04 02:16 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11798&item=8134367225&rd=1


I almost bought that one poncho pattern for $2.50 yesterday at Lion Brand web site. Apparently this person made a book of patterns from there, which you can do at a discounted price for the patterns, and is now selling it on ebay. geesh, will they ever stop. The picture of the multi colored flowery poncho is the same!!!

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#27200 10/01/04 03:17 PM
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and the gutsy part is that they don't even bother to make up their own pictures! she stole LionBrand's pictures to use!!


Melissa
#27201 10/01/04 04:13 PM
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I guess my question is... is the book actually infringing? The reason I ask is because Lion Brand's website leads me to believe they are giving permission to use it if you "run a business where Lion Brand yarn and patterns are used." My interpretation is it makes it a "grey area" because the listing shows and gives credit to Lion Brand.

As for the pictures, I'm not sure whether that is acceptable or not. Maybe if they are displayed in the book, it might be... If you were selling an old magazine or a crafting book you bought, are you allowed to show those inserts? I'm not a lawyer by any stretch of the means, but I guess this situation could be argued if someone was skilled enough.

Personally, I think it's stupid to pay that much when you can go and create your own for $1.50 for each pattern... that's what I would do. People should research more or find forums like this to ask questions. At eBay, the seller only gets paid what the buyer is willing to pay. If the price were pushed up by shilling, then yes, that is definately wrong... I just don't know about selling the created book. I guess it could be debated. Lion Brand probably figures it has been paid the amount they wanted... once the book is yours, I guess you can do what you want to with it... just don't copy it and distribute it because that is a clear-cut violation.

What do you guys think... am I wrong in the way I see it? I'm not saying I would do it... just that I see a loophole in getting around it.




Miekki
#27202 10/01/04 04:23 PM
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Well here comes my 2 cents. I see it the way you do Miekki, Lion Brand wants you to purchase a bunch. I think they feel , if you can't beat them join them. This may actually be their way of combating "copyright infringement", this way they at least get something out of it.

#27203 10/01/04 04:32 PM
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Yep... my take exactly. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />




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