BellaOnline Forums Relationships Married No Kids The jealousy of the childed

I was lurking, as I sometime do, and came upon this:

http://www.bloggingbaby.com/2006/09/24/whats-up-with-the-anti-kid-movement/

Why don't the childed just admit their jealous of our freedom and free time. <img src="/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />

Yes, when I go out, I get annoyed by the inability of parents to properly discipline their kids. I like to go to a restaurant and not have to hear some kids whining bloody murder because: A <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> It did not get his/her way and B <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> the parents do not and will not giving them a warning or a spanking. <img src="/images/graemlins/angel.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Why is it that when people have kids nowadays, they won't properly discipline their child, and expect everyone to deal with it with a smile on their face and pretend we are happy with their inability to parent.

Also, they have the nerve to refer us to the anti-child movement. It�s called us childfree, but do not lump all childfree into one category. Some are hardliners, some aren�t.
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Boohoo. She feels "outnumbered" by two children and a cart full of vegetables and items that have to stay cold.

She says that just because her children cry in public doesn't make her a bad parent. I agree with her there, but if she handles it by continuously subjecting others to said crying, then she is an inconsiderate person.

Sounds like she is lacking in self confidence. She can't handle her children so she lashes out against people who don't have them, claiming they don't understand what she's going through. "Having kids is hard. It is a nonstop job." No kidding. This is news? Does she think this is something someone without a kid is incapable of understanding? Perhaps we are more aware of this than most, which is why we have chosen not to have them.

This woman needs to stop whining.

Good lord, did you read the comments that followed that article??? Is it any wonder we are running as fast as we can away from that group???

Here's my theory on why parents won't discipline their kids in public - it's because all the holier-than-thou parents will look down their noses at anyone who swats a kid's rear in public. I'm not talking beating of course, but a stern word or a smack to set the kid straight. They'd get pounced on for being harsh or abusive, hurting the kid's self esteem, yadda yadda. So then everyone has to suffer.

I don't agree with this article at all. It's people like that that totally irritate me! I am a parent and I can't stand those kids and those parents! Outnumbered? - Powerless? - give me a break. Who's the adult? Not her. Sorry to say, it's just pathetic. Whining about how others should tolerate your screaming child? That's just disrespectful to think the world should cater to you.
Just my two cents!
I could have wrote the original post. Except the spanking part. I don't believe in hitting another human being. But other than that I completely agree! And well although I'm not jealous of the CF - I believe some parent are. You could be right about that.

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[color:"orange"] Hello, you are so awesome! Your a lot like my own mother!!!!!
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let me get my pet peeve out of the way. parenting is not a job. it is a responsibility.

okay, sorry but that irritates me.

now for the actual article. how does this person know that everyone who is giving him/her looks is childfree? sometimes other parents get irritated too with kids who are screaming at the top of their lungs and yelling at their parents. just because the person doesn't have a kid present with them doesn't mean they don't have one or two at home.

that article seemed really familiar though. i wonder if i've seen it somewhere before.

Yeah, that article reaks with the sense of entitlement that seems to come along with taking on the 'most important job in the world.' To people like the author of that article, I would say:

I do understand the need to take your kids out in public to teach them to behave. But if you are going to use a public space as a classroom for your kid, and the kid starts freaking out/disturbing others, you have to remove yourself and the child until it calms down.

If you want to teach your kid something, take it to a restaurant, but be fully willing to leave early if the kid can't handle it. This will mean you don't get to enjoy your meal, but that's the price! If you want a nice meal out, or you have some actual shopping/errands to do, then get a babysitter.

Of course, it is expensive to pay for babysitters so that you can go out and gets things done in your life, but you should have factored that cost in before you decided to have a child in the first place!

Ha ha! I'm telling you those parents drive me crazy! I am working hard to think positively and calm myself. So when I see a situation like that I do try hard to be compassionate - to the kid. But the parent -- sometimes I want to strangle them. Then I breathe......
How disrespectful! To make everyone listen to all that and you should take those kids home. C'mon a cart of vegetables? Geeezz. C'mon people.
I come to this board because I have yet to meet a parent that doesn't occasionally cave in to this type of behavior from their child and I find that unacceptable. I don't yell, I don't spank. I discipline with firmness and authority. That's what it takes.
Responsibility/Job I believe it's both. It takes skill! So very few people have the skills to parent correctly. I'm telling you I use to "hate" kids. I didn't understand them. To me, they were creatures to be avoided at all costs. And now I know with 100% certainty it's their parents that are so, so unskilled that the poor kid is out of control. When I see a bad child my initial reaction is "Oh, what a BRAT!" and then I think you poor thing your parents are not up to raising you. My parents have a business in the mall and I go there occasionally. I cannot tell you how many excuses I hear from parents about their children. There is not a day that goes by that you don't hear a screaming child in the mall. And all I hear is "He/she is so bad" "He/She is so stubborn" "They're so WILD" As if they just born defective and the parent can do nothing about it. Lots of parents just give up. It's just sad.
And the nerve of some parents to think the world should just "understand".
Oh I have a couple of stories for you.
One story is a guy was in the bookstore and I have my kids with me and of course parents love to chit chat with other parents. Which is fine, but then he starts complaining about his sister and BIL that they still go out several nights a week and don't want to babysit etc. etc. How they just don't "get it". Once again I try to nicely say "They don't have to get it - they don't have kids" And they can do whatever they please. And he was implying that they were immature because they didn't have kids. Please! I do think that parenting does require you to think about someone other then yourself, but I see plenty of immature parents. Maturity has nothing to do with having or not having kids.
Hey the other story - let me brag a minute about my 2 year old. She lectured someone the other day! She was at the mall with my Mother and she saw a 5 year old girl screaming at the Dad. (My Mother told me this story afterwards) My 2 year old walks up to the girl and says "My Mommy told me to NEVER yell in public," "That is NOT nice." Ha ha ha. The girl stopped yelling!
Boy, I wish I could have been there. Anyway the father of the girl turns in shock to my daughter and says, "How old are you?" She tells him she's 2 and he turns to his daughter and says "Do you hear her? "She's 2 and knows better than you." Can you believe that? A grown man letting a 2 year old do his job, handling his responsibility. OMG. I just laugh and laugh at that one because how many times have we all been there and would have LOVED to do the same?

Wow, the comments were fascinating. I can honestly say, in my "soul" I have no wish to bear-children or run a household. What century do some of those people live in? I love how they think we're the angry ones. Wow, do they actually know anyone who chose CF, or are they so domineering and pushy that those friends cave to the expectations of society rather than stand up for what they believe in. A shame, really.

Kudos to Hello. I'm with you, depending on the age, the kids don't really know any better if the parent hasn't taken the time to tell them.

Back in the day, my mom would leave us with neighbors and go shopping. We weren't "taught" in public. We learned it was a special occasion and if we wanted to go, behave or pay the consequences. typically the fear of an angry mom was enough to get us on our toes. And I can't remember ever being spanked.