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I know that loveapple and I agree with what you say in this regard <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

[quote]Carennedy,

I guess that includes murderers, rapists, pedophiles...etc. I mean, freedom for one group to knowingly continue in sin is freedom for all groups.

So, my job is to love those who are in bondage to the homosexual lifestyle. In particular, the promiscuity, the immorality and the decadence.[quote]

Surely you jest!! In bondage??? Did you just make up that vile comment to further demean (in your twisted way of seeing life) the last minority it is OK to hate? Publicly, that is. Nothing is worse that the hypocrite who condemns others while calling herself 'a loving human being.' What a pile of meaningless words AND thoughts. Puleeze!

And thanks for including us with rapists, pedophiles and murderers. We appreciate that. I suppose loving them is your job as well. You must be one busy human being and I use that term loosely.

The bible is a tool of the Christian religion. A hammer can be used to drive a nail into wood, or it can be used to bludgeon someone in the head. Tools are also created by man. There may be input from other sources, but it was still written by man and interpreted throughout time by man. That indicates there might be some room for error, no?

If you believe in creationism you cannot ignore the fact that the precentage of homosexuals in the population across cultures has remained constant. Satan is not out there recruiting or else the number would increase greatly and quite truthfully, the Christian crusade against homosexuals would likely drive people TO not AWAY from it. It is reasonable to assume, then, that the creator has a purpose for homosexuality AND included it in his plan. If that is the case, then homosexuality is not a sin. Go back to the first paragraph and see where it is also reasonable to assume that the tool used for the Chrisitian faith may have been misinterpreted or include a personal human agenda.

The tool (Bible) is increasingly becoming the religion itself instead of serving as a guidebook for a spiritual life. As someone wisely said earlier in this thread "look inside yourself and you will know what is right".

Any comparison between murder, pedophilia, etc and homosexuality (assuming you believe it is a sin) is apples to oranges. Pedophilia and murder physically harm others. Homosexuality does not harm another. If you equal all sin in this manner than I truly pity anyone who believes. A child over seven, according to the bible, knows the difference between right and wrong. Is the child's sin of a lie equal to that of a murderer? One cannot pick and choose interpretations to suit themselves. I grew up in the church and if I were there today and still believed, frankly I'd be sitting in the pew waiting for the lightening bolt to strike the church. Christians are more concerned with others "sins" than their own it seems.

"From what I understand love apple is not homosexual, but she supports the freedom to live whatever lifestyle a person wants to live. I guess that includes murderers, rapists, pedophiles...etc. I mean, freedom for one group to knowingly continue in sin is freedom for all groups."
Really! You people get upset when someone refers to fundamentalists as 'fundies' yet you lump people like myself and Battlekitten in with murderers, rapists and pedophiles!! EXCUSE ME!!


Well, I've done it again... open mouth insert rear end!!

I never mean to insult anyone.

Let me try again, I don't want to condemn anyone. I think we are all the same. To me, I don't care, God loves you and so do I. At least I try. What I was trying (badly) to say is that I actively try to stay away from judgements about people and their way of life and choices they make. Because I think it's so easy to get caught up in the middle of a hypocrasy (sp).

My relationship with Christ is as precious to me as yours is to you. I don't think I am God and I don't think I have any hierarchy with Him just because I'm not homosexual. I have my own problems.... <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I think the problems arise when we point the finger at other people, and say we are "more loved" because we aren't like them. To me, that's what Jesus was talking about when he told us not to worry about the speck in our brothers eye, but to worry about the plank in our own.

I'm sorry that what I wrote wasn't clear.

We all have our own bondages. I agree with the quote you included in yur post. Bondage was the wrong word to use. I mean that we are all not perfect. I hope you can understand that I never meant to hurt your feelings and make you feel judged.

I have said what I think about homosexuality, I have no more to add so will withdraw from the topic.!

well, there is a chapter in the bible that has "these are the people who were driven out of the land. Men who had unnatural acts with other men, unclean people, etc. I won't put too much down because I can't find the exact version of the bible I enjoy reading. Those who refused to leave the land were killed. So, in other words, some gay people aren't as bad as people think they are. And I'm straight.

Thanks, patience. I love Paul's letter to the Corinthians, the one about love, but agree with you about other points you made on him.

Denise, you said it so well! It does seem that worship of a book has taken precedent over the ideals behind it. This is why the buddha did not want to write one, and when pressured to do so, he wrote a book that was so short and to the point that it could not be used against others.

I think we need to look at the bible as history, and history is always evolving and changing. Humans do grow more tolerant on the overall, and I hope such positive change continues to grow in all churchs, and between them as well.