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Well said, Patience. But you know that people like the poster will NEVER change their minds. I have had many people tell me, "My daddy taught me to hate homosexuals (people of color, other cultures, other countries) by the time I was 6 years old and that's good enough for me." I say, "Have you learned nothing since you were 6?" But that doesn't make any difference. Confusing 'believers' with facts or logic is just too much for their limited brain power. <img src="/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" />

Or as that 'fundie' once commented, when it was pointed out that Jesus was a Son of Israel:

"If English was good enough for Jesus" (holds up copy of Bible) "It's good enough for me!"

The KKK still hasn't been able to resolve its hatred of the Jewish nation with the fact that Jesus himself was a Jew!

So many people overlook that fact.

Why should anyone be offended by me suggesting Jesus or his disciples might have been gay? Anyone would think there was something wrong with be gay, which of course there isn't!!

They do not overlook the fact, they have twisted it around weirdly and say that he was not a Jew, that he was an Israelite. Oh yeah, and he was White too. Which I can't figure out how they come to THAT conclusion since if he looked like most of the people born in the region he would definitely not be blonde with blue eyes.

I think their white hats are cutting off blood flow to their brain.

Back then, as with the Taliban and in Saudi Arabia today, he would most likely have been stoned to death. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Isn't the "homosexuality is contrary to the laws of God" thing in the Old Testament? I don't believe it exists in the New Testament. And isn't the New Testament the primary source of Christian doctrine?

Second, Jesus was passionately against the strict enforcement of religious doctrine: If any of you has a son or a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? [Matthew 12:11]

Jesus, whom I love deeply and admire, could not possibly be in accordance with any discrimination, hatred, or even slight intolerance of homosexuals. He spoke of equality and tolerance. And not the type of tolerance I see in here, where you speak out of one side of your mouth about grace and forgiveness, yet still hold out that such love is a sin. It really is not for us to judge, lest we be judged and to the same measure by which we did others.

People need love and companionship. It is normal to seek it out, and if you have a preference for one gender over the other, what difference does it make? Do you really believe God would disapprove of such a thing? Don't answer because some book seems to say so, look in your heart of hearts and ask yourself. Would an omniscient, omnibenevolent, omnipresent God really care?

What matters is healthy relationships full of love and the spread of love among us and throughout the world. I would ask that you open your hearts and try to see it as a non-issue.

In the New testament, Paul made mention of homosexual acts, ( NOT homosexual LOVE) but I take nothing he said too seriously because he also disliked women!

I also often wondered if his 'thorn in the flesh' was perhaps his own sexual urges. Also, he was not very appreciated by the apostles who knew Jesus. He himself started out as a persecutor and never met Jesus in real life. He is said to have seen him in a vision, but I also have my doubts about the emotional and mental stability of people like Paul who claim to have 'visions'. He is comments about women suggest to me that he was not a very stable or well adjusted person. It is a pity that so much of Christian teaching today is based on what Paul said, rather than on what Jesus said.

Innaproriate and very insesitive. Thankyou for giving us an example of how some christians think.

I am NOT homosexual, I have been married very happily for 37 years with children and grandchildren. I just support the right of gays to practise their sexuality in a sexual way! There are many Christian gays out their and just because the fundamentalists don't like it is no reason for them not to be the way God made them!