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Rom 1:21-27
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

According to this passage there were people who were rebelling against God and didn't even want to know Him and so He gave them up to "vile affections" which included homosexuality. It also teaches the homosexuality is against nature.

Doesn't this seem to indicate that homosexuality and similar sins are in direct rebellion to God and His will?

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Most people think they know what God thinks of homosexuality because of a few mistranslated or misinterpreted passages in the Bible and that's what they've been taught since they were little kids in Sunday school.

I found an eye-opening article that actually makes a lot of sense if you're someone who is willing to think about it logically.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibi.htm

I mean, does it really make sense that God would create something that He would condemn (and yes, homosexuality is proven to be a biological predisposition, not a choice)?

I guess being someone who is spiritual but not religious and also a scientitist just gives me a completely different perspective on the subject. I've known several homosexuals and they're just normal people who just what to live their lives like everyone else. They didn't ask to be gay, they just were, and I has always rubbed me the wrong way for other people I've know to speak badly of them in the name of Christianity.


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Michellem,

It is an interesting article, and it does make me go back to what I said before - I don't have the right to judge whether or not homosexuality is right or wrong. That is a moral issue that I am going to leave between the individual and God.

It is so much more important that people come to know God and His Son, Jesus - and they are not going to want to do that if all they ever hear is how He detests what their lifestyle is.

I know people are going to scream at me that someone has to admit that they have sin in their life before they can come to know God (ABC - Admit sin, Believe in Christ, Confess & repent). But I believe that the "admitting sin" part is the general part - saying "yes there is sin in my life that is separating me from God, and I want to get rid of it". I believe the "confessing and repenting" is when we get down to the specifics - because that is when we have already let Jesus inot our hearts and He is showing us what our sins are, and then we are working, by Him, to repent of those sins. Because many times we are in such darkness - that we don't even realize that something that we are doing is wrong! (Think of 3rd world countries that actually still worship idols of gods.)

Anyway - this is just my opinion, luckily it is hard to stone me through an internet connection! <img src="/images/graemlins/rolling.gif" alt="" />


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Does any religion support homosexuality?

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Many branches of different religions accept it as normal, or accept that people should be allowed to follow their own sexuality.

Patience.


Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
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One such Christian Denomination is the Methodists, or the United Church.

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There is way more on hetrosexual sex than there is on homosexual sex in the Bible.

The Bible glorifies sex between a husband and a wife. It does not glorify any other type of union and as per other posts I have quoted, God detests any other type of union.

However that said, there are instances where he has used women in non marital relationships to make other more important points about the human spirit.

If God condoned homosexual acts he would have glorified it, just as he does with sex in marriage. If he condoned homosexual acts he would have used them as a way to show that other issues were more important, ie that of forgiveness and responsibility.

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I hope I don't appear aggressive Carrennedy, I agree with the rest of what you said and I have always found your comments to be balanced and fair; I believe that you are the kind of Christian that more should aspire to be. I just wanted to point out to those that do use the story of sodom and gomorrah as anti-gay rhetoric that actually there's more evidence against that fact that the two cities were destroyed because of the sin of homosexuality than there is for.


I do not find offense with anything you say or find you to be aggressive, I do find you to be knowledgeable on the topic.

Thank you for your compliment, it is the best thing that I could ever hear about myself, as a Christian who strives to reflect Christ in this world.

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I respect your views Carennedy, but this:

"God detests any other type of union."

Oh boy! What a cruel God! One who gives with one hand and takes away with the other - who creates people in a particular way, then tells them he detests them for being what they are, through no fault of their own. I'd avoid that God like poison!

No thanks, I don't want to know that God or have any part of him. I have more compassion than that in my little finger.

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I didn't say God detests you, I said the union not the person. He loves us all.

If my children constantly lied to me over and over, I'd detest the lies but I'd still love them. God is like our Farther, he loves us, wants us to draw close to him. However, like selfish children we look to ourselves and ignore his advice and rules. Then wonder why he doesn't love us. He does, it's our choices and behaviors he doesn't.

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