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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257353 07/10/06 08:46 PM
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I dunno should I?


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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257354 07/11/06 02:22 AM
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Try and see.

Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257355 07/11/06 03:43 AM
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I have its under research in the Wicca forum. they are open honest and they dont bash or try to convert any one and they are very very nice!!!! i love talking in the forum!!!


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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257356 07/15/06 03:06 AM
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This is not a controversial question at all....

Christ is the founder of Christianity. Christians are just christ followers. There are alot of judgemental people who hide behind so called Christianity and follow rules set out by their particular religious sect; true Christians follow Jesus Christ and base thier lives on following his example.

True Christianity is based on Christ and He is the Alpha and the Omega of our life...

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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257357 07/15/06 05:54 AM
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I think you missed the point.
The thing that has baffled me and the reason I have created this post is because I dont see Christians following the example of Christ but of Paul.

In fact people today abandon The rules of Paul also. What does that leave of Christianity?
Even some of the most religious figures in Christianity will follow some of the rules and ignore a lot.

How many of the women cover their hair as they visit the churches for worship as ordered in corinthians?
Most of the women I see pouring out of church on sunday wear less than they would probably wear to bed!!!

If people wanna side step every rule and say that was than and this is now. Lets just give it another name alltogether and stop smearing the name of Christ.(Peace be upon him)


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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257358 07/16/06 02:10 AM
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Following Christ doesn't happen first by following a set of rules. Maybe you should study Grace. And maybe try to engage in practicing grace instead of judgement. Grace demands that we accept others based on the only fact that God loves them just as they are. God doesn't play favorites.

Jesus meets us where we are as we are. He doesn't require us to present ourselves on the outside pretending to be pure, but on the inside as being wholly committed to following Him, standing up for Him, and giving our lives to Him. As I say below, He doesn't hold up a standard, He holds up a mirror.

I didn't miss the point, the title of this thread is "Who is the Founder of Christianity?" My answer is perfectly adequate in responding.

By the way, if what some people wear to church upsets you, don't go. And i agree that the Word of God is as relevant today as it was when it was written.


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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257359 07/16/06 04:44 AM
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OK Kibrilis! You've got me delving, <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Jesus didn't get hung up on all the rules, because he would rather see people loved and in touch with Him, than proper and with no heart. He stayed all over the scribes and the Pharisees because they followed the laws to the "dotting of the Is and the crossing of the Ts", but they had no real heart of worship for God.

in Mark 12: 28- 31 it says:

[color:"red"]28 Then one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, �perceiving that He had answered them well, asked Him, �Which is the first commandment of all?�

29 Jesus answered him, �The first of all the commandments is: �Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.�� �This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: �You shall love your neighbor as yourself.� There is no other commandment greater than these.�[/color]

Jesus' first and foremost thoughts dealt with love, not with how people should dress.

But <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I do believe that Christians should dress modestly all the time (not just at church), because to do otherwise is to tempt others into having thoughts that they shoudln't have. I'm not saying women have to wear the dresses to their ankles and veils over their faces, but modest dress for everyone is appropriate.

And I think it is also safer in this age of pedophiles and rapists, to be quite frank. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257360 07/16/06 04:52 AM
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I am curious though about this.....

Why is it OK for you to attack Christians but we get told we're attacking because we defend ourselves.

If you started a Who founded Wicca and then started attacking their answers and judging them would they not get defensive?

Are you really seeking an answer or just trying to cause a stir?

Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257361 07/16/06 01:41 PM
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Following Christ doesn't happen first by following a set of rules.


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And i agree that the Word of God is as relevant today as it was when it was written.


You are saying 2 different things altogether. The word of God is either relevenat or it is not.
If it is so relevant today, why is it not important to follow the rules?
It just seems like there are 2 voices in bible. One of God and his prophets (Peace be upon them) and one of Paul.

All I am looking for is clarification of this.
I am not insulting Christians. I have many Christian friends.

Im not laughing at your belief, that would be insulting.
I am looking for answers. Forgive me my friends Im not trying to insult people.


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Re: Who is the founder of Christianity? #257362 07/16/06 07:49 PM
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Ok then, if we agree that Jesus lived and taught love and Mercy and God is Mercful, then thats where i will start!!! Jesus taught us how to live by living the law (the Word made Flesh) he was perfect and had no sin!!! He walked among the Gentils (non Jews can spell)to show them how to live and what God wanted from His people. Also to show the Poloticials that there was more to obeying the law!!! the politicians made the temple into a den of thiefes and Jesus torn it down!!! Jesus was the Last Sacrifies!!!! As for the rules... Jesus does not expect us to be perfect to believe. we are to believe and learn the Word of God and become Chirst Like... the bible is not out of date old or new testement... we are not picking on you and i think this and the others have answered your question!!! even i can see thourgh this ruse and i am more incline to believe people are trying to learn and understand others but... you try me some times!!! lol


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