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How can the incredible shrinking man be in a state of roid rage?

Why would they not be able to say Sci-Fi Network on a channel that is a sister station? Could they not say NBC? That doesn't make sense to me.

Nothing seems to make sense to me with WWE and their affiliates. I have no idea why they aren't supposed to say it unless USA doesn't want to drive traffic away from them.

They managed to get some plugs in when they were switching from TNN to USA and I am sure they will get some in this time.

But why they can't or shouldn't say the network is beyond me.

Actually I don't even know if they ever did say NBC...

Vince McMahon obviously has respect for ECW brand. He probably appreciates the fact that they left a mark in the wrestling industry by doing things differently, being original, & building new stars from the ground up. Not capitalizing on the nostalgia of other stars persona that were developed from another company already like Ted Turner's WCW did & TNA of today are doing.

I, personally, don't believe Vince has respect for any other company. There is hardly any ECW workers on the WWE roster and its been made clear that the main reason for the New ECW is Heyman's contract was coming to an end and MacMahon didn't want Paul to jump ship to TNA. This is why Paul only has 8 weeks to pull together a ECW program. He pulled out a trump card to get what he wants. If Vince was so up on ECW, why is Paul working OVW for all these past months? Why was he sitting at home as a consultant while Steph was killing Smackdown?

As for WCW and TNA, stealing top stars that are already made? All the lucha libre? The X division? The great nWo storyline? The 4 Horsemen? Vince had nothing to do with it.If anything it could be said, MacMahon stole talent from WCW because of the buy out. They beat him out for 83 weeks in a row.

And not capitalizing on the nostalgia? Vince brought back the nWo with Hogan, Nash, Hall and X-pac. Let alone that DX was a direct rip off of it to start with. He brought in Goldberg. Heck he even created Lesnar in Goldberg's image. Now he is trying again with Lashley.

Its easy to see who Vince pushes and I don't see that being anyone from ECW

This is only my opinion but I really see things differently
when it comes to Vince MacMahon.

Se7en

Iwas just reading on the WWE website and the dates announced for the ECW is being banded as a "summer tour" and a "summer television series". Does this mean that it is only going to last the summer and will then go back to nothingness?

Or maybe Vince is only making a few dates and see how they are met... Yeah, I may have actually answered my own question there... <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

If you saw WWE last night and still believe Vince has respect for ECW and their legacy then we watched two different shows. He sh*t all over ECW and made them look like third rate jobbers. They ran away from the Velocity guys!!

The show centered around Vince and his a$$ and not the ECW PPV. They barely mentioned the ECW Head to Head show coming on tomorrow and they hardy pushed the PPV.

AFTER the show went off the air, they posted two matches on the site that will happen on the Wednesday show. Orton got more air time than anyone in ECW.

I think this is a very bad sign for ECW. This is just Vince's newest XFL.

I can't even begin to go into the fact that you said Turner and TNA capitalized on nostalgia and Vince doesn't. I think others may have already said more than I could (and better).

Vince effectively stole all of ECW's ideas, then stole the NWO idea and made DX. He has been trying to steal the Goldberg idea since Goldberg emerged (First with Goldberg then with a string of guys, now Lashley).

WCW had the luchadors, the finest cruiserweight division in the US. TNA has the X-Division, now the finest cruiserweight division in the US. WWE has uhhh a few guys they throw on Velocity.

TNA is responsible for making more stars just in the XDivision than WWE has been anywhere. Name one new (not in another promotion and established) star that WWE made huge since Lesnar.

There is more I could say but there is no sense in saying it. It's all perception and the whole "Vince is a genius" thing actually gets into people's brains and they believe he IS pro wrestling. While he certainly did plenty for the sport, he also is hurting it right now. Anyone who could watch last night's Raw and say Vince is doing a better job than TNA or WCW did, just isn't seeing what I saw. What a mess of a show it was.

Here's hoping they turn the promotion around somehow.