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#248714 05/14/06 04:56 PM
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I can't stand the bombardment of mother's day sentiments - can't they at least rename it "good" mother's day - or PNB-mother's day??? ha-ha....Anyway - I think non-mothers should be congratulated on this day too for making the decision right for them!!!! Too bad all those breeder mothers and mothers who abuse their children think this day applies to them!!! Enjoy your Sunday!!!!! :-)


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I don't think CNH is attacking Mother's Day. I think he/she just is annoyed by the fact that the bad and abusive mothers are automatically included on this day and they are not people who deserve a day to be worshipped.

Mother's Day is for the good moms out there. The ones who handled their business and raised their children to be well-behaved upstanding members of society. The ones who took the bad things about parenthood along with the good.

It's not a day for a woman who systematically abuses her children or for the one who leaves her children alone for days at a time to go party in Vegas or for the one who looks the other way while her boyfriend rapes her daughters every night because she can't stand life without some dick in it.

Mother's Day should be based on the woman's performance as a mother. Any woman can birth a child. Not every woman can be a mother.

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CfN seems to have a chip on her shoulder.... I have seen some of her posts and the content is a bit hostile toward those who have children, to say the least....

CfN.... What thoughts do you have for YOUR mother on this day?

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Wow - lots of serious people!!! I guess my point was completely misunderstood!!! The sentiment was not how childfree people should be treating their OWN mothers on Mother's Day - but a statement of good wishes to NON-mothers (ie childfree women) on Mother's Day...I guess the little bit of humor wasn't understood!!! :-)....and I included a side commentary about how not every mother is a good mother - simple as that!!!

Simply stating that this forum is for people with no kids (again - the phrase "No Kids" is in the title of this forum - what's not to understand?!?!?!?!!!) and trying to question threads that parents are starting/continuing about their kids is quite legitimate, in my opinion!! I'm quite sure the same would happen if I went to a parenting forum and kept inserting little comments about being childfree (which I would never do). Have a read around many of the other posts on this forum - a lot of childfree people (AND parents, I'm sure) don't like the lack of actions taken by breeder parents - and appreciate the actions of PNBs. Viewing that as simple hostility is wrong and missing a point frequently made on this forum. If anyone doesn't understand the difference - there's a great website that can explain the definitions: www.happilychildfree.com


I won't address the personal attack or the questions about my own dear mother!

Ok - let me try again and hopefully I won't be criticised for doing so - but - To all the childfree women out there - hope you had a great non-mother's day yesterday - breakfast in bed and bubble bath included!!!! Cheers!!


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One question - Do YOU have kids?????????

I think all us childfree people reading this would like to know!!!!!

Thanks!


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And a happy non-mother's day to you all!

To celebrate mother's/non-mother's day, my CF sister and I visited our mother. We made her breakfast, gave her gifts, and played board games together.

I think that my sister and me being CF is a gift to our mother because:

1.) She is young at heart, so the title "grandma" would not sit well with her!
2.) Being a public schoolteacher, she does not like kids and doesn't want to put up with them on her personal time.
3.) Both I and my sister have a lot more time and money to spend on mom.
4.) Most of all, since we don't have the responsibility of children, we're available to take care of mom in old age. In my family, only the childfree have really been around to take care of the elderly; for instance, my CF uncle moved from Texas to Arizona to take care of my grandmother before she died. Even though she had another son in the same town, he couldn't take care of her because he has too many kids!


I am thankful for my mom, because she values me and my sister just as we are, and supports our decision to be childfree.

On a side note, I think there should be CF mother's day cards -- perhaps for a great "pet mom." I had actually strongly considered visiting my best friend on mother's day, because she is a great pet mom to a dog, a couple cats, and countless birds and small animals. Also, there could be a "garden mom" version; I think I would fit into that category. I dote on my little garden, and it's nice that it never needs a babysitter. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I am artistically gifted so I could make such a card. Who here would actually buy or make a "pet mom" or "garden mom" card for a CF woman you know?


And just a funny little anecdote; on mother's day, as my sister and I were giving gifts to mom, this conversation ensued.
mom: "Wow! Look at all this...I should be doing nice things for you two instead."
sister: "That reminds me...why isn't there such a thing as daughter's day or kids day?"
me: "Don't get me started...around here, EVERY DAY is kids day!"

Isn't it true, though? In a child-centric culture, the parents get one day apiece and the kids get the other 363 days! Also, every other holiday is child-centered in some way....kind of gets annoying....

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CFH I couldn't agree with you more...Is it just me or have we been inundated with hearing about Mother's Day for about 6 weeks now!? I love my mother and I sent her a card- enough said! But it frustrates me that our society is consumed by this "hallmark" holdiay! I swear if I hear one more Mother's Day ad I WILL vomit! BTW- my husband got me a card from our dogs for Mother's Day signed with paw prints and all!!! Very cute! But I don't interpret your comments as bitterness or you having a chip on your shoulder...I think you are just frustrated like many of us CF women :-)

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Is the question addressed to me?????????????????????

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have two daughters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rather fond of expressive punctuation, aren't you?!?!?!?!?!?

My two daughters sent me a boquet of flowers on Mothering Sunday - a different 'feast' to that celebrated in America, with it's origins in a parochial Tradition.... In England this Sunday marked a devotional period when parishioners would return to their natal parish to offer thanks for the Mother Church and this eventually came to include the birth-Mother as well....


Why, what was your point?

Sorry....

I meant -


Why???????????????????

What was your point?!?!?!?!?!?!? <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Wow! It's so strange that two English-speaking countries would have mother-related celebrations on different days!

The American mother's day is probably different due to America never having a single, centralized church. Here's a little background on the celebration in my country:

Mother's Day festivities in the United States date back to 1872 when Julia Ward Howe (her other claim to fame was writing the lyrics for the "Battle Hymn of the Republic") suggested the day be dedicated to peace.

In 1907, Ana Jarvis, a Philadelphia, Pennsylvania school teacher, furthered the cause by beginning a campaign to establish a national Mother's Day. Ms. Jarvis persuaded her mother's church in Grafton, West Virginia to celebrate Mother's Day on the second anniversary of her mother's death, which happened to be on the 2nd Sunday of May that year. By the following year, Mother's Day was also being celebrated in Philadelphia.

Not content to rest on her laurels, Ms. Jarvis and her supporters began to write to ministers, businessman, and politicians in their quest to establish a national Mother's Day and in 1912, the Mother's Day International Association was incorporated for the purpose of promoting the day and its observance. By 1911, Mother's Day was celebrated in almost every state in the nation. In 1914, President Woodrow Wilson made it official by proclaiming Mother's Day a national holiday that was to be held each year on the 2nd Sunday of May.

(Also, Father's day was not an official U.S. holiday until the 1960's!! What a double standard!)


While I was thinking about all this, I had an idea. Have any of you ever heard of celebrating an Unbirthday? The idea originally comes from Alice in Wonderland. The Unbirthday could become an unofficial Childfree holiday due to the fact that we will never birth any children! And that's certainly cause to celebrate!

I'm going to look at my calendar and find a month where there's no other holidays, and I'm going to pencil in an Unbirthday just for fun. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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