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#220773 11/10/05 01:42 AM
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Does anyone have or know where I can find a recipe for authentic Torun gingerbread (gingercake) <I>pierniki</I>? It is similar to but very different from German <I>Lebkuchen</I>. I love to eat both of them.

I have the "authentic medieval recipe" found in tourist shops, have looked in all my cookbooks and have tried "Google."

Locally, I can buy bags of <I>hearts</I> and <I>stars</I> made by Wedel for import. However, it does not taste as good as what I bought in Torun. I know there are sites online which carry several different kinds, but I's like to try my hand at making my own.

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#220774 11/10/05 05:58 AM
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Hello

here is an original XVIII century recipe (written in polish language from that era):

We&#378; miodu pra&#347;nego ile chcesz, w&#322;�&#380; do naczynia, wlej do niego gorza&#322;ki mocnej sporo i wody, sma&#380; powoli szumuj&#261;c, a&#380; b&#281;dzie g&#281;sty, wlej do niecki, przydaj imbieru bia&#322;ego, gwo&#378;dzik�w, cynamonu, ga&#322;ek, kubeb�w, kardamonu, hany&#380;u niet&#322;uczonego, sk�rek cytrynowych drobno krajanych, cukru ile&#263; si&#281; b&#281;dzie zda&#322;o, wszystko z gruba przet&#322;uk&#322;szy, wsyp do miodu gor&#261;cego, miarkuj&#261;c &#380;eby niezbyt by&#322;o, zmieszaj, a jak mi�d ostygnie, &#380;e jeno letni b&#281;dzie, wsyp m&#261;ki &#380;ytniej ile potrzeba, umieszaj, niech tak stoi nakryto, a&#380; dobrze wystygnie, potym wy&#322;�&#380; na st�&#322;, gnie&#263; jak najmocniej, przydaj&#261;c m&#261;ki ile potrzeba, potym nak&#322;ad&#378; cykaty krajanej albo sk�rek cytrynowych w cukrze sma&#380;onych, znowu przegnie&#263; i zaraz formuj pierniki, wielkie wed&#322;ug upodobania porobiwszy, mo&#380;esz znowu po wierzchu tu i owdzie wtyka&#263; cykat&#281; krajan&#261;, do wierzchu pozyngowawszy piwem k&#322;a&#347;&#263; do pieca i wyj&#261;wszy je jak si&#281; przepiek&#261;, znowu je zyngowa&#263; miodem z piwem sma&#380;onym i znowu po wsadzeniu do pieca.


Here are some newer recipes:

RECIPE 1:

Sk&#322;adniki: 1 kg m&#261;ki &#380;ytniej, l kg miodu lipowego, l jajo, l &#322;y&#380;eczka sody oczyszczonej, l &#322;y&#380;eczka korzeni (cynamon i go&#378;dziki), l &#322;y&#380;eczka any&#380;u, l kieliszek spirytusu, migda&#322;y.
Przyrz&#261;dzanie: Mi�d przesma&#380;y&#263; z korzeniami i gor&#261;cy wla&#263; do przesianej, ogrzanej w piecyku m&#261;ki. Dok&#322;adnie wyrobi&#263; mas&#281;, doda&#263; sod&#281; rozpuszczon&#261; w niewielkiej ilo&#347;ci wody, spirytus i jajo. Wyrobi&#263; dobrze ciasto, aby by&#322;o do&#347;&#263; twarde, uginaj&#261;ce si&#281; jak guma. Pod koniec wyrabiania doda&#263; obrane ze sk�rki, grubo siekane s&#322;odkie migda&#322;y i wymiesza&#263;. Je&#347;li ciasto jest zbyt suche, doda&#263; ciep&#322;ego miodu. Blach&#281; wysmarowa&#263; woskiem, ciasto rozci&#261;gn&#261;&#263; na grubo&#347;&#263; 3 cm, ubra&#263; obranymi ze sk�rki migda&#322;ami i piec ok. l godziny w gor&#261;cym piekarniku.

RECIPE 2
Ciasto: 80 dkg m&#261;ki pszennej, 20 dkg m&#261;ki &#380;ytniej, 50 dkg miodu, 1/2 szklanki cukru, 2 jaja, 2 &#322;y&#380;eczki sody oczyszczonej, l kopiasta &#322;y&#380;ka przyprawy do piernik�w.
Masa do prze&#322;o&#380;enia: 25 dkg konfitury z pigwy lub renkiod, po 10 dkg migda&#322;�w, orzech�w (w&#322;oskie, laskowe), fig, rodzynek, cykaty, 1/2 szklanki miodu.
Przygotowanie ciasta: Jajka ubi&#263; z cukrem na pulchn&#261; mas&#281;. W rondelku zagrza&#263; mi�d z przypraw&#261; do piernik�w. M&#261;k&#281; wymiesza&#263; z sod&#261;, przesia&#263; na stolnic&#281;, zrobi&#263; do&#322;ek, wla&#263; do niego mi�d i no&#380;em zarobi&#263; ciasto. Doda&#263; jajka i wyrabia&#263; ciasto, a&#380; b&#281;dzie g&#322;adkie i l&#347;ni&#261;ce. Przykry&#263; &#347;ciereczk&#261; i odstawi&#263; na kilka godzin, aby "odpocz&#281;&#322;o". Form&#281; wysmarowa&#263; mas&#322;em i wysypa&#263; m&#261;k&#261;. Piekarnik nagrza&#263; do temperatury 180�C. Ciasto w&#322;o&#380;y&#263; do formy i piec ok. l godziny, sprawdzaj&#261;c patyczkiem pod koniec tego czasu, czy ciasto jest upieczone. Ostudzone ciasto szczelnie zawin&#261;&#263; i od&#322;o&#380;y&#263; na ok. 10 dni, a nast&#281;pnie prze&#322;o&#380;y&#263; mas&#261;.
Przygotowanie masy: Migda&#322;y sparzy&#263;, obra&#263; ze sk�rek, posieka&#263; razem z orzechami, figi pokroi&#263; drobno. Konfitury z miodem podgrzewa&#263; w rondelku tak d&#322;ugo, a&#380; zg&#281;stniej&#261;. Doda&#263; bakalie, sma&#380;y&#263; jeszcze chwil&#281; na ma&#322;ym ogniu, przestudzi&#263;. Ciep&#322;&#261; mas&#261; prze&#322;o&#380;y&#263; piernik przekrojony na p�&#322;. Pola&#263; polew&#261; czekoladow&#261;.


If you need translation to english - I will be no help. I don't know how to translate recipes - my vocabulary is just too poor.

As you may imagine, there were many different recipes, which were held by its owners in deep secret.

BTW most gingerbreads sold in Toru&#324; today has a small label saying "NIE DO SPOZYCIA" - "NOT EATABLE", strange, huh?

Yanc

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Well check it by yeorself at:
http://www.torun.webd.pl/piernik.html

This forum doesn't like polish charakters.

#220776 11/10/05 06:10 AM
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Yanc, if you can type the recipe in Polish without the diacritic signs, which create "krzaczki" on the screen, I might be able to translate it into English (with a little help of our friends, of course).
BTW, I was going to write my recipe for brownie, but I've got it in our measurement units, of no use for the American - take one and a third glass of sugar, half a glass of raisins etc. Sorry.

#220777 11/10/05 07:23 AM
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I have that recipe in my Polish cookbook. I will post it later after I come home from work. No time now.

It is called Torun Honey Spice Cake Old Polish Style (staropolski piernik torunski) There is also a layered one, one with marzipan and one named Southern Fruit Honey Spice Cake)

The book is called "Polish Heritage Cookery" by Robert and Maria Strybel ISBN 0-7818-0069-2 if any one is interested in purchasing or checking out at the local library.

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Quote:
BTW, I was going to write my recipe for brownie, but I've got it in our measurement units, of no use for the American - take one and a third glass of sugar, half a glass of raisins etc. Sorry.


Zooba,

There are conversion charts for changing metric measurements to non-metric - on the web, and Jaga has a chart somewhere on the website...so please, give us your brownie recipe!

#220779 11/10/05 01:09 PM
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Check it here, it is in English. Actually a couple of recipes for
Janina's Piernik (Polish Honey Spice Cakes)
and
Ciastka Miodowe (Polish Honey Cakes)


http://www.stnicholascenter.org/printabl...p;smpl_sakey=51

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I ask myself 'Is this forum becoming absolutely obsessed with food?' - and here I am trying to keep my weight down or even reduce it. Perhaps a sparring bout with Adam, Jerzy and Forza might keep me fit - or kill me!
Leslie

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here I am trying to keep my weight down or even reduce it. Perhaps a sparring bout with Adam, Jerzy and Forza might keep me fit - or kill me!
Leslie


Leslie,

If you limit yourself to smalec and sauerkraut with garlic you will lose weight in no time as you will slowly starve to death ... <img src="/images/graemlins/angel.gif" alt="" />

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Your pithy, short and to the point posting gave me the best laugh I have had in days. Dziekuje bardzo
Leslie <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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