[color:"purple"]thx! yes, i've been hearing about the milky spore...it's been noted that if everyone in the immediate area doesn't apply it, it's really useless as you will still have the buggers coming into your yard from the neighbors'.
this is the first year i've seen them - and i've had the one rosebush for 5 years. my neighbor (a couple houses down the street) says she sees them every year (she's got about 10 rose bushes). she says they are really bad this year. she's talking about getting traps - says they work, you just need to place them somewhere on the property that is away from the roses. (and, yes, i've heard they actually attract more than they get rid of).
i don't think anyone else on the block has roses. maybe if the two of us use the milky spore we'll resolve the problem for next year. in the mean time, yes, squishing them works for the short term.[/color]