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#201300 07/12/05 02:20 PM
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Hi Everyone,

The last few weeks have been very emotional. We find when we lose someone how deeply we really loved them. For a while I was having difficulty doing anything at all, but thanks to friends I've finally started to move toward healing, although the cycle of grief is not quite complete.

I have a lot to do - getting Joe's work published, writing my own books, getting his art into museums.....and of course, raising CF awareness and money.

I ordered a used tarot deck from someone who needed to raise some money and received it yesterday. It's the Goddess Tarot and she included her own beautiful bag. I haven't felt able to read or interpret, but I tried a reading with these and they were right on the money. The main message was "Get to work" along with charging a fair price for my art and services, which has always been a struggle for me.

Many thanks again to Lauren Ravenstar and all of the members who have kept this forum alive. I hope that you'll all stick around!

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Hi Parthena,

Glad to have you back 'home'. Just take one day at a time. I have been where you are now and know that it is a difficult road to travel. But as you said you are moving toward healing. That's a good thing. You will remain in my prayers.

Concerning not charging fair price for your work. I continue to read that this is pretty much a woman's issue. We have been raised to nurture, <img src="/images/graemlins/angel.gif" alt="" /> for some reason charging less seems to come under that heading. In the book "Nice Girls Don't Get Rich", author Lois P. Frankel, PhD suggests that women should develop a written fee schedule. This way when you are asked "what do you charge?" You can say "Let me show you my fee schedule...". She reminds you that the schedule should be updated also.

V~

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Hi Parthena,

Glad to have you back 'home'. Just take one day at a time. I have been where you are now and know that it is a difficult road to travel. But as you said you are moving toward healing. That's a good thing. You will remain in my prayers.

Concerning not charging fair price for your work. I continue to read that this is pretty much a woman's issue. We have been raised to nurture, <img src="/images/graemlins/angel.gif" alt="" /> for some reason charging less seems to come under that heading. In the book "Nice Girls Don't Get Rich", author Lois P. Frankel, PhD suggests that women should develop a written fee schedule. This way when you are asked "what do you charge?" You can say "Let me show you my fee schedule...". She reminds you that the schedule should be updated also.

V~


Vannie, thanks so much. Sounds like you're very familiar with the ups and downs of good days and bad days. I developed a ritual the other day that helped so much - I took his favorite foods out to the cemetary and sat and had a kind of picnic with him. It was so healing, and I plan to make it a regular practice.

He's made a few visits in dreams as well. I want him to visit every night, but I'm also aware that it's not fair to him to beg or ask. I'm taking it one night at a time......on his first visit, he told me to remember something - it was two words - I promised I would and can not remember it at all <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

And thanks for the info on the fees. Right before he got so sick, I finally got a lot of interest in my goddesses and had to turn down orders. I know he would want me to continue, and I'm looking forward to seeing his influence in my art now.

Thanks so very much for your kindness and support.

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Parthena it's so good to hear from you and have you back. You don't need to thank me for looking in on the forum, it's been good for me to figure out some of the symbolism.

On grieving be kind to yourself & remember that the time most people need to recover from the loss of a loved one is two years. There are bound to be up days and down days for a long time to come. It sounds like you are doing very well in the circumstances. It helps in our line of work to know that they can still visit us doesn't it?

On charging I look at it this way: I have a talent for healing like someone else might have a talent for baking cakes or painting & decorating. Nobody would expect a baker or a decorator to work for nothing, so why would a healer's time be worthless? If I didn't charge I'd have to go and do something that didn't fulfil my life path, the healing would be squashed out & far fewer people would be helped by me. Also the money they give me is an exchange of energy for the time and energy I give them. It is their investment in their healing.

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Parthena it's so good to hear from you and have you back. You don't need to thank me for looking in on the forum, it's been good for me to figure out some of the symbolism.

On grieving be kind to yourself & remember that the time most people need to recover from the loss of a loved one is two years. There are bound to be up days and down days for a long time to come. It sounds like you are doing very well in the circumstances. It helps in our line of work to know that they can still visit us doesn't it?

On charging I look at it this way: I have a talent for healing like someone else might have a talent for baking cakes or painting & decorating. Nobody would expect a baker or a decorator to work for nothing, so why would a healer's time be worthless? If I didn't charge I'd have to go and do something that didn't fulfil my life path, the healing would be squashed out & far fewer people would be helped by me. Also the money they give me is an exchange of energy for the time and energy I give them. It is their investment in their healing.


Thanks so much for that advice and support, I've even been getting that message in my cards. I just acquired the Goddess Tarot and it resonates with me so well that I may be selling off my other decks!

My apologies - I felt ready, but have had problems with the internet for 2 1/2 weeks <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I can't stay on long enough to get anything done! I keep thinking it's fixed so I haven't called them, but I figure by now they owe me at least a day's credit!

Yesterday was 30 days since he's been gone and it was a bad, bad day. I hurt worse than the day he died, if that could even be possible. I didn't stop crying all day long.

So - provided my connection holds up, I'll be here!

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Parthena, just let the tears flow.

I lost a partner some years ago and set aside one hour a day for grieving. It gave me the space to really feel my emotions, while still dealing with other aspects of the day.

My blessings are with you.

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Parthena, just let the tears flow.

I lost a partner some years ago and set aside one hour a day for grieving. It gave me the space to really feel my emotions, while still dealing with other aspects of the day.

My blessings are with you.


Hi Susan,

Thanks for sharing and I'm sorry for your loss as well. You definitely know how hard it is - I honestly never expected it to be this intense. I can only imagine that it's equal to losing a child, something that I've always hoped will never happen.

I was going to the cemetary almost daily and then thought that it may be doing more harm than good. Based on what you've said, I think I'll continue. I actually stopped by there late last night on the way home. A graveyard under a full (well, almost) moon is quite a experience.

Also, Lauren told me that you've been helping watch over my forum, so thank you for that as well. <img src="/images/graemlins/heart.gif" alt="" />

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Welcome back! Do not rush this part of your journey. It is so necessary to take every moment into ourselves and experience all that it holds - even when it is pain. It is certain that even pain will turn to joy when it is time.

May you be blessed.

KendraShai

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He's made a few visits in dreams as well. I want him to visit every night, but I'm also aware that it's not fair to him to beg or ask. I'm taking it one night at a time......on his first visit, he told me to remember something - it was two words - I promised I would and can not remember it at all <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


Parthena,
Once again, my condolences to you. I have never lost a husband to death, only to divorce; but my great-grandmother passed away just a few years ago, and she was so special to me! I know she did not share half of my heart the way a husband and wife do, so I can only encourage and pray for you, and hope that you soon you will find comfort in amongst the grieving.

I wanted to say somthing about your promise to remember in your dream; (I know this sounds weird coming from the newbie to the dreams editor - I apologize for being forward). But maybe what your husband asked you to remember was as simple a thing as remembering he loved you, or that you need to heal; something that your brain doesn't neccesarily need to remember, but your SOUL does. And if that is the case, then you will keep your promise, because your love for your husband will allow you to do nothing less.
Love, Michelle


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He's made a few visits in dreams as well. I want him to visit every night, but I'm also aware that it's not fair to him to beg or ask. I'm taking it one night at a time......on his first visit, he told me to remember something - it was two words - I promised I would and can not remember it at all <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


Parthena,
Once again, my condolences to you. I have never lost a husband to death, only to divorce; but my great-grandmother passed away just a few years ago, and she was so special to me! I know she did not share half of my heart the way a husband and wife do, so I can only encourage and pray for you, and hope that you soon you will find comfort in amongst the grieving.

I wanted to say somthing about your promise to remember in your dream; (I know this sounds weird coming from the newbie to the dreams editor - I apologize for being forward). But maybe what your husband asked you to remember was as simple a thing as remembering he loved you, or that you need to heal; something that your brain doesn't neccesarily need to remember, but your SOUL does. And if that is the case, then you will keep your promise, because your love for your husband will allow you to do nothing less.
Love, Michelle


Hi Michelle,

Thanks so much for your words of wisdom and comfort. I kept repeating those two words but didn't wake up to write them down. I even told his mother in the morning that we were supposed to remember something.....what you said makes sense, and I think it will come back when it's time.

No one is a newbie here! We're all learning.

So, okay, I'm asking - what did you do to deserve this? <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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