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This was a VERY lively debate. I guess I have a certain take on it. I think everyone can subscribe to some form of "spirituality" in their lives. Even if it is simply in terms of their inner self. A spirit can be used to describe the essential essence of a being. A person. You know -"he has a good spirit or he has crushed his spirit etc."
I guess my feelings are that religion and spirituality are two completely separate things. Religion refers to an organized way of believing how you and the world came to be, how to live in it, and what happens afterwards. Whether you are in Christianity, Islam, Buddism, Hinduism, whatever...
Someone can be spiritual and not subscribe to any specific religion - and I think that this is what this forum and this site should be all about. Giving people an outlet to learn and talk who are concerned about their spirituality - not their personal organized religion.
No offense to those of you who believe it is all or nothing - trust me I know all about Christianity and Catholicism - but feeding and nurturing the "spirit" do nothing to take away from those beliefs. Don't you think?
Lisa Angelettie MSW BellaOnline Depression Editor ************************** Are You Depressed?
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Jesus did NOT come to sever doctrine. He severed traditions that were man based and not God based but He never severed the Law. He said that not one tittle of the Law would change until all had been fulfilled. Jesus said He was sinless therefore He never broke the Law. Before you fix a problem you must first realize you have a problem. The Law of the Old Testament was like holding a mirror up to your face to reveal your flaws. The Law told you what was wrong and right and how we don't live up to it. It said, " You need a savior." The New Testament was the revealing of the savior Jesus Christ. By the way Jesus was never stoned. They wanted to several times but they never did. The Christian faith DOES teach that you can experience the divine individually. Jesus Christ is God and you can have a personal relationship with Him. Jesus NEVER said he was leading others back to themselves to find the Kingdom of God within. He ALWAYS said He was leading others to God the Father to the Kingdom of God that was, "not of this world"
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yes, Religion has become nothing more than big business ..
hence the NEED for each indiviual to have an intimate personal relationship with God, to KNOW God in your heart .. there is NO ONE that should try to come between your God, Higher Power or whatever you choose to call that which IS, & You - ones salvation is totally an INDIVIDUAL matter, and there is NO ONE that knows the intent of your heart other than God
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Salvation IS an individual matter. It is through the individual of Jesus Christ and no other.
KNOW JESUS,KNOW SALVATION
NO JESUS, NO SALVATION
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Chipmunk
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RELIGION VERSES SPIRITUALITY ??? Its pretty easy to know spirituality is the winner here....
Geez how many wars has religion caused? lots.....
What about spirituality? What? - none? geez that cant be good can it.Religion is all about control and domination oh and lets not forget major brainwashing.I just cant believe in this day and age so many people can be so gullable.
LMFAO!!!
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BellaOnline Editor Tiger
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A characteristic of a good parent is that they guide, not dominate.
A characteristic of a good manager is that they guide, not dominate.
A characteristic of a good leader is that they guide, not dominate.
So, there are many points in our lives where we may be subjected to domination, and not just by a religion.
A religion that guides, and not dominates, would be a source of comfort and encouragement. Do you really believe that ALL religions seek to dominate? I have seen some that do so, sure, but I have also seen some that seek to guide rather than control.
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Chipmunk
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Yes I do think "some religions" guide people and if they need that then its good and the religion serves a purpose.I just think its very sad thats all....
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Gecko
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Jesus teaches love and forgiveness. Righteousness and holiness. Who can fault that?
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Chipmunk
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Deana I love the picture you have on display - it is beautiful...Where did you get it? <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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BellaOnline Editor Tiger
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Freespirit, I had that picture emailed to me years ago. I LOVE it! I think it's about one of the most gorgeous ones I've ever seen.
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