I was only noting that someone else on YOUR FORUM mentioned that these are the things that children DO TO THEIR PARENTS...I love pets, don't get me wrong...grew up in a house with a family of 7 chihuahuas (male, female and 5 pups and bottle fed them, too)...but pets are no replacement for children...though I do know that you have to care for pets and children alike...finding babysitters, feeding the right food, doctors and insurance and the like. I didn't mean to offend, just wanted to note that not all children are degenerates. Guess you won't know till you have your own...but I also know that having children isn't for everyone...thanks...