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I thought that there was symbology in the Lord of the Rings, but its been so long sence i watched it...


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[quote]I don't belive a psychic telephone is "witchcraft", nor that wiccan as it truly is intended is bad. It's just pagan mythology, which predates Christian mythology. There is nothing sinister about it, and many of its holidays are now Christian holidays. Neither viewpoint is better or worse than the other, and this country was founded on religious freedom, not any one religion.

That said, yes, McDonald's is not nutrition, and their toys come from many mass-produced tv show or movie tie-ins. Parents should watch what their kids watch on tv and what they are being "sold." To every big business in the world (and that includes politics), we are merely consumers and they like to sell us on anything and everything. McDonald's now has pirate-themed stuff from the new POTC movie. Pirates were lawbreakers and murderers, so surely that is equally bad?"

I have to agree wholeheartedly with you. Actually I am rather suprised there are so many concerned with the toys in happy meals anyways to the point of action towards the company (letter writing etc). Personally if I am going to spend that much energy and outrage it had best be for something that is important. Worry about the criminals out on the streets, drug dealers down the road, etc. Not a toy that is going to be played with once and thrown in the floor and forgotten. But that's just my opinion.

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According to the Bible the Heavenly Angels always are looking to God and take their direction from God. You can ask God to send his angels to help you, but if you want to ask other forces....

If you are talking to the spiritual world then you are talking to the unholy angels or demons. They will take direction from someone other than God.

Since we can't see the spiritual world and there are eternal consequences for aligning yourself with the wrong forces, it just safer to stay away from it.

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According to the Bible the Heavenly Angels always are looking to God and take their direction from God. You can ask God to send his angels to help you, but if you want to ask other forces....

If you are talking to the spiritual world then you are talking to the unholy angels or demons. They will take direction from someone other than God.

Since we can't see the spiritual world and there are eternal consequences for aligning yourself with the wrong forces, it just safer to stay away from it.


Well if that is true than anytime you speak to God technically you are speaking to the spiritual world and therefore should avoid speaking to god and anything to do with the spiritual world.
Frankly it's all the same whether you speak to god in a phone, an email, over a cross, or thru your local priest it's still a prayer to God. I prefer to my lines of communication open with God, howelse am I to know if he has something important to share with me.

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anytime you speak to God technically you are speaking to the spiritual world

Speaking to God is speaking to the Creator. Any other spiritual creatures you speak to are created things. The Creator is the only One I trust to instruct me.

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just to be devils advocate!!! do you not talk to heavenly host? God cant God send His massengers (Angles or who ever He likes)to give you a messege? The bible makes mentchion of many times when He sent His angles to tell people whatever. the Angles met Mary at the tomb,and angle came to Mary to tell her she was pregent and what to call Jesus, Mose's and the burning talking bush... would you say they are differnt from us and God would not send an angle or burning talking bush to us to show us the way? why would they be differnt from us?


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Yes, God Sent them. You aren't to pray to angles. They are God's messengers sent for His purpose.

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i never said pray!!! but they did talk to the angles!!! BIG difference!!!


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Is nt a unholy angle a demon? just wondering


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Freebubbles, if you walk into a new age story you will find books that glorify angels and prayers to them.

In prayer you should only talk directly to God and not to something asking them to talk on your behalf. We cannot understand the spiritual world and know who it is we are praying. It is safiest to direct your prayers to God.

You do make a point though, how would we know if the angel God has sent as his messanger is really from God. Any ideas as to what signs allow us to know if the angel is from God or something else?

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