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#146764 01/31/04 05:32 PM
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Yes, I recall hearing that too, and I am aware that she is a major derelict. But, I'd be interested to hear his full answer to this question. I'm not saying whether his decision is right or wrong, it's his money. But, it's just so unbelievably cold. It really is. What would drive a person to that extreme? Would he ever be willing to get her help, or rehab? And if he disagrees so strongly with her for saying such horrible things, then why does he say such horrible things to Kim and women in general, publicly no less? I think he's a complete misogynist. I'd like to enjoy his music, because I think he has talent. But I can't get past his meanness. Apparently, neither can he.

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#146765 01/31/04 06:33 PM
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I don't think he's misogynist. I am pretty sure he's misanthropic.

And I think it'd detract from his art if he weren't.


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#146766 02/01/04 12:38 PM
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Perhaps he does hate everybody, but it is women that he chooses to attack, which makes him nothing but a coward in my book. I refuse to respect a "man" who verbally and or physically abuses women. I don't care how rich and famous he is. I just can't accept that.

#146767 02/01/04 02:37 PM
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No, he doesn't choose to attack just women, he attacks men as well. His targets consistently seem to be:
- cheating women
- bad parents (both genders)
- people who work in the entertainment industry
- stupid fans (both genders)


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#146768 02/02/04 12:00 AM
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What's his excuse for attacking Mariah Carey, and the mother of his child? I don't see him target individual men this way. And what's his excuse for promoting violence against women in his music? There's no excuse for his conduct. The man disgusts me. He's a coward.

#146769 02/02/04 01:56 PM
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> What's his excuse for attacking Mariah Carey
Don't know, didn't hear, what did he say? Didn't they used to date?

> and the mother of his child?
I think she cheated on him or something

> I don't see him target individual men this way.
Versace
his father
(that's just off the top of my head)

> what's his excuse for promoting violence against women in his music?
if he's promoting violence in his music, it's not ONLY against women.


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#146770 02/02/04 08:14 PM
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IQ, this is not something I will ever be swayed on. There's no excuse for a man to be emotionally or physically abusive to women. Ever. I don't really follow your argument, which appears to be that you're defending him on the basis that he is abusive to men as well. That's an entirely different issue. Two wrongs don't make a right. I cannot support his behavior. If a person clubbed baby seals, would it be okay if he clubbed dogs as well? It just really doesn't make a lot of sense. And, as this is intended to be a safe place for women to post, I don't think that this is an appropriate place to protect male abusers. There are plenty of forums which support people like Eminem. But this is a sanctuary for women, where we supposedly don't have to hear about the virtues of a man teaches hatred of women. If you like him, that's your option. But I don't. And I sincerely would hope that in a place such as this, that my viewpoint would simply be respected.

#146771 02/03/04 06:05 PM
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Quote:
There's no excuse for a man to be emotionally or physically abusive to women.
Why are you limiting it by gender? How about the other way around?
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I don't really follow your argument, which appears to be that you're defending him on the basis that he is abusive to men as well.
No. It was my response to "I don't see him target individual men this way," which goes against your calling him a coward for attacking women only.

All I'm saying is that he is not biased against *women*, he is biased against *people*.


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#146772 06/02/04 10:10 PM
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man i love eminem he rocks

#146773 06/03/04 12:04 PM
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While I respect everyone's opinion on Eminem, I thought I'd just post mine here <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

1. I didn't know that Eminem "attacked" Mariah Carey in any way, but in one of Mariah's songs on her latest album ("Clown"..I think is the name of the song)..Mariah verbally disses Eminem. So the "attacking" is going both ways in this situation as far as I'm concerned.

2. Eminem raps about things that have happened in his life. The mother of his child is a drug abuser, criminal and adultress..and his mother was never really a mother to him at all. So while we have our rights to express our opinions in our own way, regardless of the topic..so does Eminem. And he chooses to do it through music..which is beautiful and artistic.

I think Eminem is very talented and I'm a woman. I take nothing he says about women personally! People either love him or hate him..To each their own <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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