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#137611 09/11/04 03:25 PM
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With recent reports on news magazines such as 20/20 and 60 Minutes on this topic, I wonder what the participants of this forum might have to say on the subject of cyberporn and porn addictions in general. I've found that it is one of those topics that many are uncomfortable talking about, due to its intimate and personal nature, yet when one does... it surfaces as a problem in a fast growing number of families and relationships. The porn industry is working hard to go mainstream. Biographies of famous porn stars are now showing up on our bookshelves, hitting the bestseller lists. How do you all feel about this?

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#137612 09/11/04 09:40 PM
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As a sex educator, I find that when people are able to talk openly about intimacy and sexual relationships, the furtive and addictive qualities that often come with pornography really wane. How does that quote go, "the forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest..."?

Why has a society that has always shunned them before now decided to embrace porn stars and make their bios bestsellers?

#137613 09/12/04 02:15 PM
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You're right, Rae, honest and open communication strips away, if you'll pardon my word choice, the furtive aspects. And yet. I think with this kind of addiction, it appears to go deeper than that. In watching these programs, and also in having this come up as topic in my circles of friends and acquaintances more and more often as a very painful relationship problem... I am fast learning that this is not something that can be allowed to grow without some kind of guidelines, some kind of boundaries, limitations. It is such a basic, strong drive, the sex drive. I don't think it will stop expanding if allowed free rein. In other words, I think what I'm seeing is heading downhill at growing speeds towards chaos, anarchy.

As for the new books coming out, I think the porn industry is working hard to become accepted in the mainstream, and this is part of that effort. I dare say, a successful one. I recently read in NYTimes that that industry now actually has lobbyists working in DC.

Did you by chance see either of these reports?

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Met a twelve year old girl recently who has been addicted to porn for more than a year now.
Got into the computer history and was amazed at the hard core stuff she visits.
Has her own computer in her room so she can lock the door.
Family never expected this!
Other sites I have visited tell me her interest is "healthy."
Any information you could provide to me about the addiction/harms to children regarding this type of behavior would be appreciated.
karen

#137615 10/05/04 10:34 AM
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Nothing healthy about it, Karen. Certainly not for a pre-teen, still emotionally too immature to be able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Enough adults out there have trouble understanding that boundary line, after all. Porn is demeaning to women especially, but also to men.

I would recommend these sites:

Enough is Enough, see study called "Just Harmless Fun? Understanding the Impact of Pornography" at

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Thanks, Zee.
Explored the sites you provided.
Am understanding more about this addiction as I go along.
Again, thanks.
karen

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Zee,

I have worked in the past for businesses that are part of the "adult industry" on the leather/fetish retail end of things, and have been aware of the industry lobbyists for years.

I myself support the work of groups like the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom, http://www.ncsfreedom.org

I believe that when cultures recognize sexuality as natural, and acknowledge that teens are sexual beings, you can have healthy channels and outlets. To me an atomosphere of denial and repression can only lead to more and more substitute outlets.

#137618 10/19/04 10:12 AM
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Agreed, Rae, that denial and repression are not good. That's why we need to be more informed about the negative aspects of pornography. When sexuality becomes an act of violence and degradation, or when it becomes a means of exploitation or slavery, then we have left the realm of the natural.

ANY addiction, by its very definition, is unnatural. A person loses control over his or her own behavior. An increasing number of marriages, relationships, and families are being torn apart by this addiction. Knowledge is power.

I urge all of you to read this article in New York Times about the sex slave trade in the United States... then talk to me about "freedom" and "natural" and "repression."

http://www.wehaitians.com/the%20girls%20next%20door.html
"The Girls Next Door" by Peter Landesman, New York Times, January 26, 2004.

It was also interesting just last night to watch a CSI:Miami episode about the sex slave trade in this country. It may be fiction, but it is based on fact. I'm glad the media, for a change, is showing us this other, dark side of this harsh reality.


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This is an interesting thread and I'm glad to see all the different viewpoints.

I'd like to add mine...
In my opinion, porn addiction is one that is dangerous. I am aware of the billions of dollars generated through what I consider the sin of lust. I was watching TV today and on the Insider program they were interviewing Larry Flynt, the owner of Penthouse magazine. I commented to my husband that didn't the millions he has made contribute to a healthy lifestyle. I was being sarcastic because the guy looks like, what I think, is the demon that possesses him.

I think that cyberporn is just too available. I think it's overwhelming and can drag one into an arena of degredation that they can't escape from. I have a teenaged son and I am aware of his healthy curiosity in the opposite sex. When I saw that he had been surfing porn on the family computer, I had a little talk with him I told him about my concerns that porn can be dangerous and can lend itself to unhealthy sexual behaviours. I also warned him of becoming addicted to it...you know the need to look all the time. He said he was just curious and I said it was OK to be curious, but I wanted him to understand that pornography presents an image of women and men that most regular people can't live up to. As far as I know he hasn't used the computer for that since then...and it opened up lines of communication between us that before were kind of closed.

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I've heard of "sex slaves" in foreign countries. I never would have thought there was a sex slave trade in the United States. Never, never a thought! I am viewing the posted links for more information on this topic. Thanks for the information.

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