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Jaga, a terrorist is a serial killer bound to an ideology and/or religion. Carl

Cannes,

but the problem is that the American who kills a guy without any weapons just to kill him, using some derogatory terms before killing .... is behaving not any better than these "terrorists".

How does Fallujah looks like now? It is all in ruins, hundreds of people are dead. Yes, I know something had to be done about it but... why this war ar all. I am not going to support the troops which behave like animals.

Carl,

so that means that terrorist has some values... because a person who is bound to ideology and religion have the values, just like our president

Carl,

do you really think that the world can be divided so easily into good and evil. WHEN AMERICAN KILLS IRAQI IT IS GOOD, WHEN IRAQI KILLS THE AMERICAN IT IS EVIL?

Did American forces invaded Iraq or... Iraq invaded America?

Jaga, simply stated, if a terrorist tries to kill me & my family, I'll kill the terrorist. Carl

The difference is that the men (and women but mostly men) in the US military did not go to Iraq just to kill Iraqis. They are there at war under orders of their government. During times of war, people do behave like animals. You need only read any of the many books written by servicemen who served in WWII (I highly recommend Audie Murphy's To Hell and Back and Roscue C. Blunt, Jr's Foot Soldier) to learn what combat does to people. It is not the troops who behave like animals who upset me so much as the officials in Washington who do. They are at war. War is inexcusable. Is it so surprising that their behavior should be? I happen to believe Donald Rumsfeld and the rest of the oligarchy running this country, not the troops, are the ones responsible for any atrocities commited by American troops. They're the ones who have put these soldiers in harm's way and who have ordered the offensives. Should they really be surprised that their soldiers are killing people? It is war and Washington made it that way. Now, if you're asking whether I consider the "insurgents" in Fallujah to be "terrorists," I don't. I do believe many are fighting US troops in defense of their city. It is sad, but true, that many Americans have lost sight of reality and bought the administration's line that the Iraqis had something to do with Sept. 11. They did not. Why Bush took the fight to the Iraqis and forgot about Al Queda is a mystery that rankles a lot of us. This war was misdiredted from the git go.

>>a terrorist is a serial killer bound to an ideology and/or religion. Carl

???? A terrorist is not necessarily a serial killer. They can be, but it is not necessary. They can become mass murderers, they can fail at murder or they can just terrorize people. Blowing up a fuel oil tank in Germany and one in the US during or before Gulf War I would have qualified as terror even without any deaths, et it would have diverted hundreds of thousands of troops and much material. I never could figure out why Saddam did not do such a simple thing.

Kai

Cannes,

also the Iraqis did not come to America to kill America's soldiers. They just want Americans out.

This was a wonderful idea of this administration to start the war. They could not even check for finishing the UN inspections. They just had to start this war, as like they were hungry wolves.

But I understand your point of course, one cannot blame exactly the single soldiers for it, although if they do such things they cannot be called heroes either.

The link seen by public opinion about Alqueda and Iraw is a mistery for me as well as the sense that this president has any moral values.

Somehow he does not care about human life, so how he can have really moral values. Maybe he cares for the lives of unborn but not the lives of these who were already born.

Hey Guys....Lily here.

Jaga..............I guess the Arabs don't care about....born, unborn, and certainly not Christians. 400.000 Christians, killed, beaten, displaced, etc,...Real Brotherly LOVE!
Maybe Another look at things to come......???
Holy War???
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Christians in Palestine Concerned About Their Future
Analysis of Correspondent in the Holy Land

JERUSALEM, NOV. 12, 2004 - While Yasser Arafat's burial was taking place in the Mukata of Ramallah, Christians of the Palestinian territories were wondering about their future.

Having become a small minority -- 50,000 in the midst of more than 3 million Muslims --, the death of the president of the Palestinian National Authority has come at a time when the political, administrative, and police structures often discriminate against them," explained Graziano Motta, correspondent in the Holy Land of Vatican Radio and of the Italian newspaper Avvenire.

"They have been continually exposed to pressures by Muslim activists and have been forced to profess fidelity to the intifada," the journalist reported.

"Frequently, there are cases in which the Muslims expropriate houses and lands belonging to Catholics, and often the intervention of the authorities has been lacking in addressing acts of violence against young women or offenses against the Christian faith," Motta indicated.

On several occasions, His Beatitude Michel Sabbah, Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, who headed the Holy See delegation at Arafat's funeral, personally asked the deceased leader to intervene, and had established with him "a friendly and direct relationship," he continued.

"On occasions he intervened in some discussions between Christians and Muslims, especially in the region of Bethlehem, to proffer a solution and redress relations," the patriarch himself said on Thursday on Vatican Radio. However, he did not always succeed as sometimes Arafat could not count on the obedience of the men of his apparatus.

"Arafat leaves Christians, and Catholics in particular, an ambiguous and potentially negative heritage in regard to long-term relations with the state entity," he added.

"Considering Christians a part of the Arab socio-political reality in the struggle for independence, he tried to involve them as much as possible, exalting Palestine as Holy Land due to the presence of holy sites for Muslims and Christians, but without ever mentioning the Jews," he said.

"And he ignored -- and in practice boycotted -- the proposal of a special status for the Jewish, Christians, and Muslim holy sites in Jerusalem. In the name of Islam, he was firm in his claim for Palestine's exclusive sovereignty over the Holy City (Al-Quds)."

"He approved the draft of a Constitutional Charter for the future Palestinian state which did not take into account the secular and plural characteristic (that he said he promoted) to affirm the Muslim character," the correspondent noted.

"This is in potential contradiction with the commitments assumed in the Basic Agreement between the Holy See and the Palestine Liberation Organization in 2000, which he promoted to imitate the Fundamental Agreement of 1993 between the Holy See and Israel," he stressed.

This agreement "affirms the equality of all citizens, regardless of their religious faith, and respect of their freedom of religion and conscience."

Lily,

yes, Christians in this region are caught in the middle of conflict. You are also right - in many Arab countries, like in Saudi Arabia Christians had no any rights to practice religion. But in Iraq they did. They even had some churches, some of them were attacked by the insurgents, of course this is a very bad idea to attack Christian churches!

Kai, terrorists hAve declared war on USA:
http://www.humanunderground.com/archive/usamah-war.html
I say kill all enemies. That will result in fewer enemies. Carl