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It is my experience that almost all peoples have been the butt of someone else's lame jokes at one time or another. The Canadians denigrate the Newfoundlanders; the Americans mock the Canadians; the Scots joke about the English and so on. Whilst these jokes can sometimes be hurtful it is best not to take them to heart. Just smile and then say "Yes very good but when I heard it, it was the other way round." People who make jokes at someone else's expense are usually inadequates.
Val

To sciwriter

Excellent summing up of the situation in Palestine. I wish more people could apply lateral logic instead of seeing everything in black or white.

Val

It was sad for me when I realized that so called "Polish jokes" were used in Poland to ridicule the policemen. I had nothing against making fun of policemen until I realized what is the origin of these jokes.

Raytan,

yes, I heard also that the using of cavalry in Poland during the ww II was not that widespread as it seems from the history books an movies.

Raytan,

I was not aware of the English putting down the Irish, but, it suprises me not. I finally had it with the English some years back. They were comfortable untill after a few glasses of beer, then the reminders of the Blitz and the Jerries and the war, and so on and so on.

Karl

Karl - the English are traditionally very insular and xenophobic, and there's still a residual superiority complex from the days when "brittania ruled the waves". plus the anti-german sentiments are still regretably very prevalent.

hopefully these things will die out in time....

Yet more anti-English sentiment.

Have the Hungarians, Czechs and Poles forgiven the Russians? Have the South Koreans forgiven the North Koreans? Have the Bangladeshis forgiven the Pakistanis? Have the South Vietnamese forgiven the North Vietnamese? The second world war is still in living memory so it would be surprising if there was not still bad feeling about it. However, as a country, we have made peace with Germany (and Italy and Turkey etc.)and the vast majority of British people do not hold a grudge against the generations who were too young to be responsible or not yet born.

As for you Raytan, since you live in Britain, I fail to see how you can call British people Xenophobic. We have millions of immigrants from all over the world living here on this tiny island and it is only now that we are collapsing under the weight that we are saying enough is enough. There are many areas here which have been entirely taken over by one group of immigrants or another. They are no go areas for Britons - not because we don't wish to go there but because they don't want us. Not only that but we are getting far more than our fair share of foreign criminals and I don't mean petty criminals either. Chinese, Sicilian, Albanian, Turkish, Russian and others from the Balkans and Middle East are all implicated in drug running, people smuggling, prostitution and paedophilia. The gangs fight and kill one another but there is always someone to take their place. Much of the racism in this country exists between black and Asian people and most violent crime is black on black and generally to do with drugs. You, Raytan, really seem to have no idea what is actually going on here. Do some research before you spout such anti-British traducements.

Val - I'm glad you're beginning to show your true colours....

however, as this is a Polish culture forum rather than a UKIP/BNP propaganda forum - maybe it's pertinent to say a few words about the anti-Polish prejudice that existed in the UK after the second world war, and the efforts to "persuade" the Poles to "go home".

at that time, the pages of the Daily Mail and the minds of people like you were filled with exactly the same stories that are written about today's asylum seekers - except that they were directed at Poles, who changed overnight from gallant allies into unwanted immigrants who were accused of stealing English jobs, involvement in criminal gangs, running gambling and prostitution rackets, killing our royal swans etc....

shortly after the end of the war anti-Polish graffiti began appearing on walls near the air stations where Poles who had helped to win the battle of Britain were based.

in June 1946, 56% of Britons polled in a nationwide survey favoured sending the Poles back to Poland. Only 30% said they should be allowed to stay if they chose.

there's nothing new under the sun....

by the way I'm sure I know just as much about Britain as you do, so please stop lecturing me like a stiff-upper-lipped Victorian schoolmistress - it's uncalled for and rather rude.

Raytan - I was invited, by the host, to post MY opinions about the EU. I was asked MY opinion about the 91,000 Eastern European immigrants who have come to Britain since May. I feel strongly that Britain, and England in particular, is being dismantled and overrun. I feel especially angry that one cannot declare patriotism without some idiot calling one a racist. If MY opinions draw scorn on Britain by people from other countries, or by people of my own nationality, then I will defend them. You don't have to agree with my opinions but you have no right to try to prevent me from airing them or to ridicule me for them.

You are right, however, about this being a forum for Polish culture, about which I know very little. I hoped to learn something about it but have found mostly your opinions, German opinions and American opinions and feel disinclined to come back here, something I am sure you won't be sorry to hear.

Jaga - I have enjoyed reading what you have written. Thank you for inviting me.

Val - next time you read something on an internet forum that inflames your little englander sensibilities, perhaps you should make yourself a nice cup of tea and calm down before composing a reply....

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My Dear Val,

I have had the previlage to read your post, and was some what disturbed. I as a person, am very sorry of your consternation of ant-British remarks in your direction. I do understand your feelings.

It would be of my request though, to just stay a bit longer, please.

We are all people, sharing our particular portion of the earth together. Nations are composed of just, numbers of individual people, and it is people that are the emportance of our world.

I do realize, my post of my personal experience, was negative on some visits to your country, my experience, is not that of all people from here (Germany). My voice is not that of all German people. I am not the voice of my country.

As a person, I do not under stand the British, it is ok in that manner, perhaps, some Britishers do not understand us, it then perhaps makes the field even.

Then, it is up to us, as individuals, to help for others, to understand us, each person of us, this for understanding.

I depend upon people as of your self, to explain my confusion, then perhaps, once I understand, then it offers my self, to explain to you, what may be of your confusion of us..

In this, makes any sense?

I realize and know my personal faults, I am north German and rather overly stubburn, I am sorry for those faults, it has been pointed out on another forum of my lousy German language, but, this is how we speak.

Our North, faces the unforgiving see, then we have the wind, with rain, with cloud and storm, the Ostsee is not better, our ships fight for life, but, when the sunshines, it is all so very glorious.

Karl