BellaOnline Forums Travel and Culture Polish Culture What do you think were the main reasons that Bush won?

I see that this vote was very much influenced by the values. People who are rather conservative in their values, pro-life, anti-gay marriage, new born Christians and traditional Christians in general. These people feel that their voice is too often not heard in mass media.

I tried to talk to young people in Idaho. There are so many young people from Idaho who are in Iraq! Some of them are saying that they feel that Bush is a commander in chief. People also do not want to change a president in the middle of the war and after 9-11.

One sad part - the democratic party is not any challenger to republicans here in the West, the same in the South. In spite of them trying to organize democratic party at least in the bigger Idaho towns - they are just not a competitor for republicans. We did not even have a challenger to currect Idaho senator! The democratic challenger withdraw, there was one independent but his name was not even posted on my ballot!

So, there is a real problem for a democratic party in the USA to build the base. They rely too much on minorities and poor, they need more of the core people to vote for them!

http://www.radio.com.pl/polonia/article.asp?tId=16115


Re-election of G.W.Bush Good News For Poland


White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card says President Bush has a "statistically insurmountable" lead in the key state of Ohio and has won a majority of the popular vote nationwide but will hold off a formal victory declaration to give Democrat John Kerry "time to reflect" on the results.
With 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, Bush had captured 254 electoral votes, according to television projections. Kerry won 252 votes. Observing the results of the presidential elections in the US Polish head of state said Terrorism has to be rejected in today's world and in this respect George Bush is a very decisive leader who is right, simply right. Aleksander Kwasniewski hailed the apparent re-election of George W Bush as "good news for Poland".
The head of the Polish Upper House and an expert on American matters Longin Pastusiak said that US society might have granted support for the present head of state because of a feeling of insecurity while the incumbent president is capable of continuing the fight with terrorism.
Poland's former head of diplomacy Bronislaw Geremek considers that the US should change its foreign policy regardless of who wins the elections. Geremek described the present policy of Washington as arrogant and expressed the hope that a change in foreign policy will bring closer ties with Europe. Europe needs the US said Geremek and it is time the US realised it needs Europe as a partner in global policy.

http://www.radio.com.pl/polonia/article.asp?tId=16117

Poland and Russia Sign Economic Deal
03.11.2004

Poland and Russia have signed an economic cooperation accord aimed at resolving problems and boosting trade between both countries after Poland's EU accession. The agreement foresees the establishment of a mixed intergovernmental commission to study problems that arise in relations between both states, said Poland's economy minister Jerzy Hausner. The commission is to hold its first meeting around March .
Economic relations between Poland and Russia are regulated by a global accord signed by Russia and the EU, and the deal signed in Warsaw is a supplementary agreement.

Carl,

thanks for the update about Poland and the USA after the election!

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Jaga:

Lily here - the Democrats took a gamble...economy, war, terrorism etc., rather than values, the middle class "little guys."

Abortion, Stem Cell, Euthanasia, Homosexual Union, Coloning...........things the Dem's thought were secondary.....overshadowed the economy. terrorism.

As far as the war, .... this was an issue, and in fact, what I believe the entire election was about.....those who approved of Bush, and those who hated Bush...........Kerry was just the guy elected by the Dem's to carry the ball.

And, with six weeks to go, Kerry still didn't have a vision and started bashing.....and then Bush bashing back...........

For the most part.....it was an election of those who approve of Bush or not.........I don't think Kerry ever presented a vision.....what Kennedy did in those golden years.

Watch the young senator from Illinois......the new "great black hope."

Time is ripe for a third party!!

Lily

The Democrats could learn from the European labour parties, Christian-democrats and liberals who after great loses reorganised themsleves and changed course succesfully, although the decrease of the amount of voters. It could learn from New Labour,
and should study the succes of Roosevelt, JFK and Clinton. A third party will have a hard time building a grassrootsmovement, and the tradition and experiance of the Democrats, Republicans.
A third party will only have a chance if it is a Uniting party, which bring Republicans, Democrats and independant people in one Moderate, pragmatic movement of the Middle (inbetween right and left).

Bush won because he is simple and plain, speaks a language what the rural population understands, and was able to attract Democrats ("Democrats if you find that your party has gone to far to the left, come to my side") and independant people.

The fact that he is a reborn christian and christian values play an essential role in his policy, he gained the vote of the about 80 million Evangelicals.

Third party conflicts with USA electoral college.

Lily, Bush was the populist. Earlier I predicted that Bush would win because most Americans perceive he's a moderate and Kerry, a radical. Analogy LBJ won because he was perceived as a moderate and Goldwater, a radical. Carl