Thankyou - in fact, it was that, as I figured out very late last night. I had heard of No Encounter armour before, but I'm using the French version of FFX, and the translation is not at all the same - his armour has "S�curit�" (Security) on it, and it didn't occur to me OR my husband that it could be the reason. But there you go. Hehe. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />