Truthfully? We spent a year talking about it. I think the talking part is over. We both know exactly where the other person stands and how important our feelings on the subject are. I think she's being pigheaded <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Kidding. I mean it's a pretty normal desire; most people seem to want it in one form or another especially those that aren't single by reason of insanity or terminal unattractiveness. And most of them probably want it too at some level but can't get there from here. So we are estranged and if she gets back in touch at some future date and has had a change of heart we'll see. But I'm not waiting around. I had this total acceptance of my orientation to this recently. Funny but what got it started was listening to a show called "This American Life" and the subject was Unconditional Love. And it dealt with parents who were raising, respectively, an autistic child, something called a "failure to bond" child and some other dysfunctional child. I've considered I might have it in me to raise a perfect kid. You know, the one in a thousand Gerber baby who never fusses, learns everything fast and so on. But I know I don't have it in me to deal with something like I heard about on the program and the deal with having kids is you don't get to choose; you roll the dice and you get what you get. And that's what the rest of your life looks like. Relatively OK or hell. My brother went 2 for 2. My mom? Two out of 3 with the first being a heartbreaking sh!thead who keeps trying to talk her out of his inheritance early. Model citizen too, as you can imagine. I like the odds as they are right now. Who Knows? Maybe we are all missing the UC gene?