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thank you so much for your kind words phyllis,i m really working hard to get rid of this interference.it s dark moon magic,people in that sphere want to eat your soul.my plexus has been on fire since a few days and i can t keep food in my stomach which is good sign,i feel i m like in withdrawal,i m getting rid of a lot of emotions.i can t wait to go home. thanks elleise.it s crazy that you can work with with the tuatha de danann and be like that at the same time.i think you re right about my purpose and that it has something to do with it cause i feel it was just an initiation,like when it happenned in that other life i know i had to go through it.long time ago lots of people came to see me for help,not today,but i feel that whatever work you re doing whether a healer or a ferryman,you always learn about new evils cause evil evolves and you have to go through it as you say to learn of new ways to help others.it is a sacrifice for the greater good an in my nature worth taking.i think it is really in me to confront and fight demons and that i ve always done that,and that this is the only way to come back with the knowledge.everyone has its own key i guess and can t get duplicated. at that time you have to leave everything behind and reunite on a higher level,in an alchemical fashion. i know i m not completely closed off but at times i m just sucked into the darkness and then i have to walk through it. the amazing thing is that sometimes i don t remember anything and what i think is real is the illusion and what seems to be an illusion is real.it s a game of mirrors. i thanks you both for your interest and your warmth helped me a lot in the last few hours to advance.i m really happy to be what i am and hope it ll be over soon.

in the end all i want is to do my spiritual work and work for nature instead of a firm and this what gets me most of the time,you know just fulfill your destiny cause i have the feeling that lots of people out there are cut off too,and follow your own nature is higher than everything that society has created whether false laws or else,and if you look at it presidents and the people who govern or even your boss if you have one who try to replace the sacred and the gods are themselves feeding off the population,they have their own agenda and their own magical work.gods are gods they are there through the divine and the natural,there s no need to elect anybody that wants to cripple mankind.

I'm cut off, and I just want to do my spiritual stuff !!

gemineye006 & Elleise,

How did and do you function in and around the crushing orthodox traditions ?

I was raised Catholic, rejected the false part, went on to a bible study group, went through metaphysical transformations, did formalized new age, now I'm surrounded literally by Protestants by stay to myself and read my esoteric literature.

What I gathered over the years was that the patriarchal church structure was used to crush the rising of The Mother Flame !

I used to go to a Pagan bookstore, and got a bumper sticker that said, " God is coming back and is she [censored] " They burned down that store..It's where I got a copy of Isis Unveiled.

she is peed off

I started blabbing this stuff to everyone and man oh man the planetary wrath of not wanting to move forward came full force against me !!! It pretty much destroyed me !!!! Somewhere I read, " To Know, To Dare and to be Silent "
duh... it ripped me apart !!!

Religious persecution still exists, unfortunately. I think it is wrong that others misinterpret the real meaning of the original and true story just to serve their own purposes.

Freedom of speech.....sure thing......but the cruel and the selfish out there don't want to hear the truth or see the light. You have suffered for it, Burt. I can empathize with what you have been through. People just want to go on doing what they usually do, with no interest in the fact that there is so much more out there for them. It is like hitting a brick wall trying to get your point across to them, and then they lash out at you to hurt you, to shut you up.

On another note, I have been raised Roman Catholic myself as you know, and I still attend Mass. But I can honestly tell you that there are certain things about this organized religion that I disagree with. I normally don't speak of it publicly but I will here because it is a safe place. I hope nobody will become offended by what I say.

One thing I do not like is that the individual churches have to beg for money all of the time, when at the same time the man who leads this church and his associates dress in fancy robes and enjoy life in the opulent Vatican. How is this anything like the way of Jesus, who was humble and poor? His riches did not come from fancy clothes and fancy buildings.

I also do not like the fact that my religion dictates that I must confess my sins to another human being, a priest. I don't do this and haven't done it since I was a kid. I do not believe in sharing my private business and shortcomings with someone I do not know. My relationship with God is personal and private, and I will confess my sins directly to the dear Lord, not to a middle man.

Someone in the hierarchy of this religion has decided that how Mass was said for the past 50 or more years is wrong, so a lot of the wording has been recently replaced with more complicated verbage. Again, our Lord was simple and good, pure of heart. Why fix what is not broken? I personally don't like the changes. One reason I went back to Mass after several years of not going was to hear the words that I was familiar with, and that brought comfort and peace to me because of its familiarity. It would bring me back to a time when I was young and life was more simple. Now I have to listen to the priests stumbling over the new verbage because they have to relearn how to say a Mass that they have done for many years without an issue.

Here again is man just being foolish. The true message of love and light is simple and pure, yet there is always someone out there to cause mass confusion, which in turn pushes people away from the real message.

hi burt,i feel you re in a lot of pain. what i think about the church and religion is simple.i think it is useless.it is formed along the same pattern than governments. church has nothing to do with god whether you re pagan or catholic.besides all those denomination are bits of the truth and deviation.very egotistic.church is not about you it s just about the people who run it. it s good though to be interested in it cause there are things that i agree with partly but in the end it is always a deformity that has to be set right. if the patriarchal church is used to crush the mother flame then there really a problem cause both belong together just like the male and female principle should be together in each of us. that it makes you angry i understand but that s how it has a grip on you. governments want your body and the church wants your soul. church is for the mass and doesn t take account the individual,it doesn t open anything,it just enslaves you. find your own church or temple and be your own temple.create your prayers,find who you are and you ll find that there are gods that exist that you can relate to. also i think there s only one sin and it is everytime you go against your purity.sin is personal,no one sins the same way and you can only sin against yourself. church equals government when we shoud all be governed by our own heart.it s always about interfearing with who you are or your path and power and control. it s always about dividing yourself. i don t know what else to say because it is a big subject but so empty it is summed up quite quickly.